tree snake or whip snake?

[alialiali]

Just found this little one bout 3 ft in the yard is it a tree snake or a whip snake??

 

[Ozzie Python]

green tree snake

 

[dtulip10]

right on ozzie

 

[nathan09]

are green tree snakes venomous?

 

[alialiali]

awesome thanks guys

 

[dtulip10]

are green tree snakes venomous?

no but brown tree snakes are slightly

 

[jase75]

Its a Green tree Snake

 

[Acrochordus]

are green tree snakes venomous?

Green Tree Snake aren't harmless, they have neurotoxins in their saliva, they inject it by chewing into there prey when feeding. But to us there harmless.
Thanks Tim.

 

[the_tsar]

Green Tree Snake aren't harmless, they have neurotoxins in their saliva, they inject it by chewing into there prey when feeding. But to us there harmless.
Thanks Tim.

This is absolutley wrong and old dogma.

Test show they have Zero neurotoxins, they swallow prey alive, and cant inject any neurotoxins (expecially as they have none). Prey seem to die from a lack of oxygen.
This is further confirmed when snakess have been caught, and the contents of their guts explored, and live prey comes out.
In fact my Green tree snales teeth dont even penetrate my preys skin, let alone "inject" anything while chewing.

I repeat, there are ZERO neurotoxins.
This is what makes them harmless.
Dont fall for the story of neurotoxins.

 

[Acrochordus]

This is absolutley wrong and old dogma.

Test show they have Zero neurotoxins, they swallow prey alive, and cant inject any neurotoxins (expecially as they have none). Prey seem to die from a lack of oxygen.
This is further confirmed when snakess have been caught, and the contents of their guts explored, and live prey comes out.
In fact my Green tree snales teeth dont even penetrate my preys skin, let alone "inject" anything while chewing.

I repeat, there are ZERO neurotoxins.
This is what makes them harmless.
Dont fall for the story of neurotoxins.

Do you have the test papers?
Thanks Tim.

 

[eipper]

HI all,

Do not kid yourself, there are certainly toxins being produced by Dendrelaphis, most readily apparent are anti coagulants, If ever see one prey on a live item, watch the amount of blood that is lost....

Secondly, the argument that snakes have regurgitated live prey so therefore they are not venomous....

I have picked Copperheads, Red Bellies and Tigers and had them regurg live and healthy prey items

The effect of the toxins or repeated exposure to a toxin that is produced by green tree snakes is unknown, its better to err on the side of caution and leave them alone in the wild and handle with caution in captivity.

Cheers,
Scott

 

[cris]

This is absolutley wrong and old dogma.

Test show they have Zero neurotoxins, they swallow prey alive, and cant inject any neurotoxins (expecially as they have none). Prey seem to die from a lack of oxygen.
This is further confirmed when snakess have been caught, and the contents of their guts explored, and live prey comes out.
In fact my Green tree snales teeth dont even penetrate my preys skin, let alone "inject" anything while chewing.

I repeat, there are ZERO neurotoxins.
This is what makes them harmless.
Dont fall for the story of neurotoxins.

How many threads do you need to repeat this rubbish in? It was an old uninformed idea that they were non-venmous not the other way around. You have no idea what you are talking about, so dont try and make it sound like there is some sort of science behind what you are saying.

 

[grimbeny]

I would be interested in seeing a paper from either side.

 

[waruikazi]

I would be interested in seeing a paper from either side.

Same. I don't care who is right or wrong in this case but i would love to know.

 

[moosenoose]

I'd love to also see the paper First I'd heard of it.

 

[dtulip10]

evidence please on both parties.

 

[moosenoose]

Not sure about posting from over sites. I'm sure a moderator will remove or do something if need be, but this is a link to such a discussion someone had with Dr Bryan Fry. That's enough evidence for me to say "yep, green tree snakes do produce venom". Good call, I've learnt something new today

Venomdoc Forums :: View topic - dendrelaphis invenomation

 

[da_donkey]

your all wrong anyways so stop arguing, its clearly a whip snake.


donks

 

[dottyback]

Not sure about posting from over sites. I'm sure a moderator will remove or do something if need be, but this is a link to such a discussion someone had with Dr Bryan Fry. That's enough evidence for me to say "yep, green tree snakes do produce venom". Good call, I've learnt something new today

Venomdoc Forums :: View topic - dendrelaphis invenomation

imm yet to be convinced they are venomous...

would it not be easy to do an autopsy on one to find a venom gland? I thought in order to be venomous, venom must be produced in a gland..

 

[Firepac]

imm yet to be convinced they are venomous...

would it not be easy to do an autopsy on one to find a venom gland? I thought in order to be venomous, venom must be produced in a gland..

If you click on the link you will see that Dr Fry estimates that the venom gland of a 2 meter specimen would be around 25mm...