what venomous snakes can i keep?

[AshMan]

hey guys, i am fairly new to aus and i was just wondering if you guys could give me a list of the venomous snakes i can keep as a pet? im aware of certain elapids avaliable such as death adders but i am having trouble finding a list of all which are avaliable. also, can i keep venomous snakes on a normal recreational wildlife licence? and is there an age restriction on keeping venomous snakes? cheers guys

 

[Pike01]

You can keep any elapid, you need a restricted licence and have to be 18 I think
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[ozstriker]

Ive been looking into this also there seem to be lots of topics on the subject but no one willing to give up information,

Seriously can anyone give a straight forward answer on how to keep elapids i.e what courses you have to do then how to go about applying for a licence

 

[thals]

You'll find that certain species and the application processes vary from state to state. Depending on where you live, contact your local wildlife licensing dept for more info or ask an experienced member from your area on here who keeps vens, am sure they'll be happy to point you in the right direction.

Cheers.

 

[AshMan]

yeah, also alot of people used shortend versions of the names of the snakes and sometimes even just the first letters of the names for example RBB = red bellied black. this doesnt help me when im trying to find out what i can keep! and cheers thals! will look into it

 

[hornet]

on your rec licence you can keep any elapid that is not classed as dangerous so your fine to keep things like marsh snakes, curl snakes, whip snakes etc on your rec permit. To keep anything like red belly's, browns, adders etc you will need to upgrade

 

[najanaja]

you can not keep any on a rec licence...

as for what you can keep when you have the appropriate licence the list is long,,

tiger snakes,
brown snakes,
black snakes
taipans
death adders
rough scales
golden crowns
stepthens bandits

so on and so on...

to get this licence in QLD you must either do the appropriate course through a registered trainer so to speak, ( not sure if a certain rec licence period applies these days)
another approach is to get referances off these people if the personally (who already hold this licence) know your capabilities.

 

[whyme]

Ive been looking into this also there seem to be lots of topics on the subject but no one willing to give up information,

Seriously can anyone give a straight forward answer on how to keep elapids i.e what courses you have to do then how to go about applying for a licence

Get on the DEC website and You'll get all your info and your list of species. Aint that hard! How to keep and handle is a different story.

 

[Snake-Supplies]

why do you want a venomous snake?

Just wondering...

 

[hornet]

you can not keep any on a rec licence...

not true, there are a number of species that can be kept on rec licence here in qld. I had another member here disagree with me on that so i got in contact with DERM and got the documents stating black and white that its only the dangerous species that need a specialist permit and nowhere does it say otherwise. If you wish i will put up the link to the legislation tomorrow if i can find it. I also have friends who keep elapids such as curl snakes, marsh snakes, bandy bandy's on a rec permit. I'm not sure if they want to chime in as they have been through this all before but i can assure you there is nothing that says that you cant keep the "safe" elapids on a rec permit

 

[Dannyboi]

why do you want a venomous snake?

Just wondering...

Why wouldn't you?

 

[Snake-Supplies]

Why wouldn't you?

I value my life.

 

[hornet]

why do you want a venomous snake?

Just wondering...

same reason why you want to keep pythons

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I value my life.

and elapid keepers dont?

 

[Dannyboi]

I value my life.

With the proper training and skills along with the correct setups and experience there is not that much chance of getting bitten. Look at Steve Irwin he handled wild snakes that would have been terrified most of the time.

 

[AshMan]

thanks everyone, you have been very helpful, and why wouldnt you want a venomous snake? the danger just adds to the thrill of observing these amazing animals! and hornet, do you know if what your saying about "safe elapids" also means you can purchase them under the age of 18?

 

[Dannyboi]

In SA I know you can do the courses for vens under 18. I'm doing a course this year actually.

 

[Snake-Supplies]

Least I can show people, and let them handle them. (pythons)

Hey, I have a tiger snake but don't touch it.

Oh, I also had a red belly, but it got out...

Steve Irwin...

yeah, he may have... but he died by a stingray...

one of the more placid creatures...

bad example.

 

[Snakeluvver2]

Steve Irwin never got bit by a extremely venomous snake.
People go to training courses or get trained up personally because they value their life.

To the original poster.
I know for a fact and like most people have said that you have to get some sort of training, wether it be personal or though a course to keep your deadly elapids.

I've been told by different people about small non deadly elapids, so I don't know what to think.
Although I would get some training anyway. You wouldn't keep them the same when it comes to husbandry.

 

[cris]

not true, there are a number of species that can be kept on rec licence here in qld. I had another member here disagree with me on that so i got in contact with DERM and got the documents stating black and white that its only the dangerous species that need a specialist permit and nowhere does it say otherwise. If you wish i will put up the link to the legislation tomorrow if i can find it. I also have friends who keep elapids such as curl snakes, marsh snakes, bandy bandy's on a rec permit. I'm not sure if they want to chime in as they have been through this all before but i can assure you there is nothing that says that you cant keep the "safe" elapids on a rec permit

While that seems to be what the law says some people at DERM (and others claiming to know) think all venomous snakes are restricted(pure BS), i have been told they are OK on a rec permit as many times as i have been told all venomous snakes require the expensive endorsed licence. Would be well worth getting some written approval if you want to keep less dangerous elapids on a recreational licence.

If you have a the expensive endorsed licence you can keep any native Elapids that are legally obtained. The only native venomous snakes you cant keep are sea snakes.

 

[Dannyboi]

Least I can show people, and let them handle them. (pythons)

Hey, I have a tiger snake but don't touch it.

Oh, I also had a red belly, but it got out...

Steve Irwin...

yeah, he may have... but he died by a stingray...

one of the more placid creatures...

bad example.

You ever been up close to a wild sting ray? there are stingrays that jump into boats and attack they aren't placid. Sting Rays set of drag like mad and well hang on a second

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Thats a mate that caught one just getting them onto the beach is hell trust me I have tried.