thanks for your honesty guys. My wife is in the natural health industry and has a personal friend who is a GP. This friend (she's a GP ok so she has knowledge right?), didn't let her own kids get vaccinated for SOME things. Others she did, but she denied them a select few saying that the risk was just too high. We are told that vaccines have saved millions blah, blah , blah, but consider this..... Are the great acheivements credited to vaccination really a result of vaccination? Because along the way, we have also had an increase (thanks to technology) in better overall health, for example the importance of washing hands, better sewerage disposal, better sanitation, better ways of dealing with our own rubbish, better plumbing, better more healthier homes being built, more awareness about simple things like excersise and diet, better ways to farm. Improvements to our way of life. My kids had pet rabbits for a while and I noticed that they were getting slack on the fresh water dept. The health of the animals was beginning to deteriorate. I made a concerted effort to make sure I gave them fresh water every day and every other day washed their water bowls. The health of the rabbits quickly improved and they went on to breed me lots of snake food. Only fresh clean water! If they contracted disease which they would of, it would be because of stress brought about by the lack of fresh water. If I had taken a sick rabbit to the vet they would have given it a name and medication. 20 odd years ago, I moved from the tweed valley down here to the central coast. I'm a builder so I was working with plumbers who have worked in the area a long time. When I mentioned the fish kill that happened in Cochrane Lagoon at Copacabana, (literally hundreds of dead juvenile bream and other species), they told me that it had only been 2 years previous that Copa had been fully connected to the sewer system. Which meant that before then septic tanks had been leaching raw sewerage into the ground which ultimatly would end up in the lagoon. These guys did not like the idea of swimming in the lagoon at all. So we are told by our govt and by the drug companies who are very unethical, that we have vaccination to thank , but it may not be so 100%. My daughter has a girlfriend whose little brother received a vaccination. That night he experienced fever and sickness, and was admitted to hospital. He was perfectly healthy, before the jab. The fevers were so bad with such prolonged high temps that he now as a late teenager has the mental equivalent of a 4-5 yr old. These are real people and a real case. When I go back to see my practitioner in two weeks I will get and put a link up here to studies being done on the link between vaccination and autism. as bluetongue has shown us, we should be fully informed and screening done before immunisation, but thankfully others have come on and backed me up that we are not. Please note - I am not attempting to belittle, argue, point fingers etc just plain old healthy debate, which may open awareness. We have the right to good solid health, and the right choose how we acheive that. As adults we have the right to trust our instincts rather then being told by someone who doesn't know us, let alone care about us to force us to do anything at all , that may or may not affect this.