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[RedFox]

And just like every other feral, I see no issue with shooting feral cats or dogs on sight.
For the record, I love dogs, I am absolutely a self confessed crazy dog person, but at the end of the day a feral pest is a feral pest and should be destroyed.

I was just going to write that. I don't see where you got cats and dogs from my post, as I don't recall mentioning them. I see no probem with feral cats and dogs being culled. I am also a firm believer that if a pet cat kills wildlife it is the owners fault. Cats should be kept inside. I had two cats one died at 14 years, the other at 18 years. in that time neither of them killed any native animals, although I can't say the same about feral rats and mice. Dogs should be trained to not kill animals. My dogs have being trained to leave our resident lace monitors, tree snakes, skinks, possums, wallabies, etc, alone. They have never killed anything. The blame for pets killing wildlife sits squarely on the owners shoulders not the pets.

 

[SteveNT]

A bigger threat to the Everglades is Australian paperbarks (melaelucas) strangling out their native trees and changing the environment for all the other species. But of course a million trees is not as macho as a hand full of snakes.

 

[Bananapeel]

+1 to Redfox and everyone else who mentioned it. These snakes are no different to rabbits, foxes, cane toads etc here in aus. They are a pest and destroy our wildlife. I don't like animals being killed but it is necessary so I understand the actions being taken

 

[RedFox]

A bigger threat to the Everglades is Australian paperbarks (melaelucas) strangling out their native trees and changing the environment for all the other species. But of course a million trees is not as macho as a hand full of snakes.

One of my biggest bug bears is the lack of recognition for invasive flora. People will quite happily go out shooting pigs but very few go around poisoning lantana.

 

[BIGBANG]

i shoot rabbits, cats, foxes, pigs, roo's ( under permit) to name a few, people that love these animals have a problem with it, i dont have a problem with people killing feral animals at all, they are not meant to be there.

 

[Bananapeel]

i shoot rabbits, cats, foxes, pigs, roo's ( under permit) to name a few, people that love these animals have a problem with it, i dont have a problem with people killing feral animals at all, they are not meant to be there.

May I ask why you shoot roos? I'm not arguing, just interested

 

[BIGBANG]

i live in a cropping area where roo's are out of control in numbers, farmers get permits to cull and they call me to come in to do it.

 

[Echiopsis]

It damn sure ruined mine.

Stalking a Python: Hunting Snakes in a New Florida Competition - YouTube

Don't worry, theres no horrible footage. Just horrible humans.

Mods, please feel free to delete if this has already been posted.

Whats the problem? I cant see anything in that vid that would ruin your day other than the typical yank drama and back slapping :lol:

They're feral, fewer left in the wild the better.

 

[Sel]

May I ask why you shoot roos? I'm not arguing, just interested

Alot of people shoot Roos, its quite normal. No different to shooting Rabbits... I only have a problem with people killing Roos with Joeys, and im pretty sure most people check what they are shooting first.
I could never do it.. i cant even bring myself to try Kanga Bangas..lol

 

[Bananapeel]

Yeah I don't have a problem with it but I'm not gonna shoot any! Haha. Can't bring myself to kill natives. Agree with the Joey comment though. Cheers sel and Big Bang.

 

[lizardjasper]

I was just going to write that. I don't see where you got cats and dogs from my post, as I don't recall mentioning them. I see no probem with feral cats and dogs being culled. I am also a firm believer that if a pet cat kills wildlife it is the owners fault. Cats should be kept inside. I had two cats one died at 14 years, the other at 18 years. in that time neither of them killed any native animals, although I can't say the same about feral rats and mice. Dogs should be trained to not kill animals. My dogs have being trained to leave our resident lace monitors, tree snakes, skinks, possums, wallabies, etc, alone. They have never killed anything. The blame for pets killing wildlife sits squarely on the owners shoulders not the pets.

I agree. It's not the animals fault. The only native my 6 cats have ever killed is a native cricket., and my babies are inside / outside cats. The only thing my dog has ever killed was a rat. Pets need to be trained not to kill our native animals. Those that do go around killing are probably doing so because their owners were negligent in their upbringing.
I also agree that the feral pigs, cats, dogs, rabbits, foxes, and even feral burmese pythons, need to be culled. It's sad, very sad, to see but it's the only way we can protect our native wildlife.

By the way RedFox, I do go around destroying lantana on our land. Annoying plant!

 

[Barrett]

When I first watched the video a week ago I was honestly quite appalled with the methods used. Also, the number of burmese they say are in the wild seem to have been over exaggerated; the number found so far seems to show that. You can say it is from unskilled hunters, though even with the number of skilled hunters there should have been many more found. I honestly stand against the killing of those such animals as there are many factors to take into account for the decline in native wildlife (environmental, other predatory animals, humans, etc.).

There are some animals I understand the need to kill, but, to be honest most of those animals are deemed to be pests because we humans say they are; when we, as humans, are ultimately the most invasive and harmful animals out there. Without humans, most, if not all, non native species wouldn't exit as they often become pests due to human interaction.

 

[BIGBANG]

I agree. It's not the animals fault. The only native my 6 cats have ever killed is a native cricket., and my babies are inside / outside cats. The only thing my dog has ever killed was a rat. Pets need to be trained not to kill our native animals. Those that do go around killing are probably doing so because their owners were negligent in their upbringing.
I also agree that the feral pigs, cats, dogs, rabbits, foxes, and even feral burmese pythons, need to be culled. It's sad, very sad, to see but it's the only way we can protect our native wildlife.

By the way RedFox, I do go around destroying lantana on our land. Annoying plant!

Are you for real? You have 6 cats and they go outside and you honestly believe that the only thing they have ever killed is a cricket. Do you follow them all around to make sure they don't kill anything? You can not train a cat on what it can and can't kill

 

[MyMitchie]

Our friend used to always take pride in saying her cat never killed any animals until one day it was windy and her cockatiels cage fell down and the cat ate her bird.
Its in their blood to do it.

I agree. It's not the animals fault. The only native my 6 cats have ever killed is a native cricket., and my babies are inside / outside cats. The only thing my dog has ever killed was a rat. Pets need to be trained not to kill our native animals. Those that do go around killing are probably doing so because their owners were negligent in their upbringing.
I also agree that the feral pigs, cats, dogs, rabbits, foxes, and even feral burmese pythons, need to be culled. It's sad, very sad, to see but it's the only way we can protect our native wildlife.

By the way RedFox, I do go around destroying lantana on our land. Annoying plant!

 

[disintegratus]

I was just going to write that. I don't see where you got cats and dogs from my post, as I don't recall mentioning them. I see no probem with feral cats and dogs being culled. I am also a firm believer that if a pet cat kills wildlife it is the owners fault. Cats should be kept inside. I had two cats one died at 14 years, the other at 18 years. in that time neither of them killed any native animals, although I can't say the same about feral rats and mice. Dogs should be trained to not kill animals. My dogs have being trained to leave our resident lace monitors, tree snakes, skinks, possums, wallabies, etc, alone. They have never killed anything. The blame for pets killing wildlife sits squarely on the owners shoulders not the pets.

I wasn't specifically responding to your post redfox, more to Pauls_Pythons question. I agree wholeheartedly with both of you, that as pet owners, the actions of our pets are our responsibility. If a pet kills an animal, the responsibility for that lies squarely on the owner, which is why responsible pet owners keep their pets contained, whatever species they are. My point was that just because I am a crazy dog lady, and have several times gone to great lengths to protect dogs (like stopping traffic on a main road in peak hour to rescue a loose SWF), does not mean I would get up in arms about people shooting feral dogs.

 

[richoman_3]

thats so cool !!!!
thatd be so much fun

 

[Sleazy.P.Martini]

How exactly DO you train a cat not to kill?

 

[thomasssss]

The blame for pets killing wildlife sits squarely on the owners shoulders not the pets.

whilst i agree with what your saying here to an extent , like those owners who make no attempt to rectify their dogs actions i dont agree with you on the whole , its a very broad statement to say its squarely on the owner , take my dog for example i have never encouraged any type of aggressive/hunting behaviour , yet she still killed a bluetongue after it wandered into my back yard that is fenced off on all sides (with a wooden paling fence so not something they can just stroll through), i then did my best at the time to try to ensure that she could never get anymore of them by putting that rodent/snake mesh around the entire fence line , i also gave her a nice smack , which i dont normally do i tend to just be firm voiced with her and she gets the point , so again i did my best to discourage any of that type of behaviour in her yet she has still managed to get a few here and there ( im now thinking there hiding in the back yard so am doing my best to try to catch and relocate any ) when she kills one i find her skulking low to the ground like she does when shes in trouble and thats BEFORE ive found it , so again she knows that i dont approve of it

so how is it squarely my fault , after i have done my best to ensure this wont happen , there contained in MY yard 24/7 and clearly know that its something i dont like and they get into trouble for , there boxers , i cant go keeping them indoors all day and night it just isnt practical so dont say i should

again i just think its a very broad statement to make , not every dog owner is at fault for their dogs wrong doing , it comes down to circumstance

 

[Echiopsis]

Who put the dogs there in the first place? It's the owners fault one way or the other. All you can do is try to minimise the chance of pet/ wildlife interraction which you seem to have done. At least dogs are generally restricted to their yard where cats go where they will.

To the poor deluded owner of the 6 wildlife friendly cats all I can say is Hahahahahahahahaha :lol:

 

[thomasssss]

Who put the dogs there in the first place? It's the owners fault one way or the other. All you can do is try to minimise the chance of pet/ wildlife interraction which you seem to have done. At least dogs are generally restricted to their yard where cats go where they will.

come on , seriously ? if it comes down to things like i put the dogs their in the first place then ill start blaming the bluetongue after all he was on my land in the first place

but no i dont blame the bluetongue , i dont blame myself and i dont entirely blame my dog , she is just doing what is wired into her breed , like i said its an unfortunate set of circumstances