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Whats your views on killing cane toads? I personally think freezing them is ok as its humane, but some people I know will go out on a hunt with a golf club and sledgehammer and beat them to death. Just because theyre pests doesnt mean its okay to torture them and kill them horribly, theyre still a living creature! You wouldnt do that to a frog why do it to a toad? Some kids I know put in a ziploc bag full of salt and leave them to die a hideous death, and enjoy watching. I think these kids will grow up to be tomorrows murderers and psychopaths. What are your views?
 

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Whats your views on killing cane toads? I personally think freezing them is ok as its humane, but some people I know will go out on a hunt with a golf club and sledgehammer and beat them to death. Just because theyre pests doesnt mean its okay to torture them and kill them horribly, theyre still a living creature! You wouldnt do that to a frog why do it to a toad? Some kids I know put in a ziploc bag full of salt and leave them to die a hideous death, and enjoy watching. I think these kids will grow up to be tomorrows murderers and psychopaths. What are your views?

I'm definitely guilty of clubbing toads. I don't want a freezer full of toads and their anguish doesn't phase me. Another method I have used is spraying them with a dettol solution. It is probably just as painful freezing toads as clubbing them.
 

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I've never encounted cane toads, but would definately find a humane way of killing them....even calling in someone else to do it....I hate killing anything.
 

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Is there anyway to kill them humanely and quickly? Most people don't like having Toads in the freezer, and even those who do, are they certain they die within a few hours? They could still be alive 24 hours, or even longer.. That'd be more torture then a quick blow to
the head, I just haven't heard of any lab tests or research that has confirmed that itkills them humanely.

Is there anything that confirms the freezer theory?
 

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Well Im pretty sure with the freezer it slows them down and they go into like an instant brumation, then die in their sleep.
 

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Everytime someone starts this topic it gets closed.

Personally, I believe they have to be killed but also believe in using the most humane method possible. (Have never encountered them so I haven't researched what that method is. Hope I never have to learn).

Also, from memory the freezer being humane thing is incorrect. Could be wrong.
 
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MY mother is quite a sight when it comes to killing toads . . She picks them up by the hind legs and throws them (with all the force she can muster) into the cement or road or equally hard surface. She repeats this process until she sees fit.

While i'm used to this, I have on occasion had friends over who without warning have had to witness this O.O
 

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Well Im pretty sure with the freezer it slows them down and they go into like an instant brumation, then die in their sleep.

Brumation is different too hibernation, hibernation is where an animal completely shuts there body down, in a way, kind of like a coma, brumation is like a long sleep I guess, where they will still wake up if disturbed, but are oblivious to the cold air. It just slows their body down..

They may die in their sleep, but how long does it take?
I know a guy that gased his rats, some of them, somehow survived, and were then found alive when taken out of the freezer after 3 weeks after freezing, and that's a mammal that is not built for hibernating or brumating.

So is a club know to the head quicker then a freeze? I believe it well and truly is.
 

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'ere we go again....

It won't be long before the cruelty and ethics go out the window and the comment "it's just a toad for god's sake..." begins to rear its ugly head again....

Clubbing does not always kill them... It merely relocates the toxic predator.

In fact, sometimes they can live injured for days... even months...

For every freezer killer (which is my chosen method) I've been told its painful for the toad... But I disagree completely - and I think their body has slowed down sufficiently before their blood freezes. I do not think it would be pleasant regardless... But a darn sight better than being relocated with a golf club....

What I stand to be amazed by (though this thread is fresh) the amount of people that believe "because it's a pest we can treat it how we like..."

Good luck with your crusade... But I'd still like to see HARD evidence that local species are becoming endangered, rare, or highly threatened by the advancement of the toad.... I'd also like to see how many more mosquitoes survive without toads around (should we wipe them out) and other pests that the toad actually does do some control of...

I don't think they control the pest they're meant to control however, which is the mere irony...
 

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I think they ARE a pest but I dont think a few people killing a couple here and there will do anything to the population.
 

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last summer ( christmas time) when it rained and rained and rained we had so many baby toads all over our back yard and patio and front yard that my lil one was not allowed to go outside and noone when outside could wear bare feet there were millions in the end we sprayed with detol all the lil ones and any big ones we found as personally i wouldnt stick anything apart from food we eat in the freezer.
 

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Is anyone else concerned with identification? I'm all for getting rid of cane toads, but how many people in the general public - and even on this forum - could identify a cane toad (at all stages of development) from a native toad or even some native frogs? I know I couldn't. Ok, some are very obvious due to size, but many many natives are probably killed in the zeal to kill toads...
 

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I was at my friends house when a few marsh frogs hopped into view, he said "hang on, gotta kill some toads", ran over and stomped on them. Luckily he missed (lol) and I stopped him from doing it again, and told him its a frog not a toad. At first he didnt believe me but I got my way in the end - as always ;)
 

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Top ways to kill a Cane Toad

01: shot gun shot to the head, quick and painless ( watch out for splatter )

02: 1 iron golf club shot, don't hit like tiger woods does though!

03: chuck off harbor bridge and watch get run over by ferri

04: put in hessiOn bag and leave in the hot aussie sun

05: stick in your granma's undies and it will stink to death ( slow and painfull)

06: paint with a toxic paint( quick and funny death)
 

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Top ways to kill a Cane Toad

01: shot gun shot to the head, quick and painless ( watch out for splatter )

02: 1 iron golf club shot, don't hit like tiger woods does though!

03: chuck off harbor bridge and watch get run over by ferri

04: put in hessiOn bag and leave in the hot aussie sun

05: stick in your granma's undies and it will stink to death ( slow and painfull)

06: paint with a toxic paint( quick and funny death)
Idiot.
 

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isnt destroying the brain the quickest most humane way to go?

even tho theyre a pest, i think they should be killed as humanely as possible,....

if i were in cane toad territory it would be a sledge hammer to the head, then put in plastic bags in the bin so nothing eats the dead toad,...

cant imagine freezing would be painless,...it sounds like one of the worse ways to die,....
 

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Theres no such thing as a funny death.

And the sledgehammer could be humane but its very violent and Im sure the kids at my school werent doing it to be humane. Plus, they missed a few times so it got each bone broken painfully before it died.
 

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they are more than pests, the impact they are having is devastating
and I think we have to do all we can to help our native animals.
so I propose once a week everyone pitch in the night before rubbish pickup and fill a rubbish bag with as many toads as you can and in the bin they go. i think its that important it should become an Australian way of life.
 
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