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Hi, I just wanted to ask if there is any rule of thumb as to how long you leave your snake alone for when you first get him home and into a new enclosure to settle in before you start the bonding process, I know all snakes are diffrent but the must be some kind of an opinion out there as to how much time do you give the snake to get comfortable in his new tub/tank, I have a piece of cloth that I have been wearing around for a few days to get my scent on it that his hide will be sitting on so as he makes the connection with the safety of his hide that will smell like me so he's comfortable with my scent when we start the bonding process, just want to know how long I should leave him to settle in first Thanks, it's probally a silly question to some more experienced snake people but im just getting into it and yes im gonna ask some dumb questions but its how I learn
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Hi Lowrider
I wouldn't bother getting him used to your scent, he will in time. I would suggest leaving him alone for at least 5 - 7 days to settle in , and when you do handle him , move slowly and be gentle. Patience is the key. He may calm down quickly, if not don't give up. But don't overhandle. Good luck.
 

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Hi, I just wanted to ask if there is any rule of thumb as to how long you leave your snake alone for when you first get him home and into a new enclosure to settle in before you start the bonding process, I know all snakes are diffrent but the must be some kind of an opinion out there as to how much time do you give the snake to get comfortable in his new tub/tank, I have a piece of cloth that I have been wearing around for a few days to get my scent on it that his hide will be sitting on so as he makes the connection with the safety of his hide that will smell like me so he's comfortable with my scent when we start the bonding process, just want to know how long I should leave him to settle in first Thanks, it's probally a silly question to some more experienced snake people but im just getting into it and yes im gonna ask some dumb questions but its how I learn
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Lol a scent cloth haha. I’ve now heard it all. All depends what sort of personality your snake has. If it’s out going and a great feeder then it prob won’t matter, but if it’s a shy animal like one of my new hatchies I won’t be touching him or getting my scent on him for at least a year maybe longer. I purchased him off roger Lester and was having trouble getting him to feed. I ended up messaging Roger asking if he had any ideas and he told me human scent is no good for a shy animal. He also said to keep him dark, warm and only drop his food at the hide entrance and leave him for an hour. He is now consistently feeding using his advice. Some hatchys are just dif and you need to find what works for each individual. I’m still giggling about the scent cloth hahahahaha, who on earth told you to do that?
 

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Lol a scent cloth haha. I’ve now heard it all. All depends what sort of personality your snake has. If it’s out going and a great feeder then it prob won’t matter, but if it’s a shy animal like one of my new hatchies I won’t be touching him or getting my scent on him for at least a year maybe longer. I purchased him off roger Lester and was having trouble getting him to feed. I ended up messaging Roger asking if he had any ideas and he told me human scent is no good for a shy animal. He also said to keep him dark, warm and only drop his food at the hide entrance and leave him for an hour. He is now consistently feeding using his advice. Some hatchys are just dif and you need to find what works for each individual. I’m still giggling about the scent cloth hahahahaha, who on earth told you to do that?
I was told about the scent cloth by an old Aboriginal man, it's worked a treat for a couple of other people, sometimes the most rediclous things you hear are just the trick to do the job, laugh all you want but don't knock it till you try it, if it's full of **** then it's full of ****, but how do you know if you don't try it especially if there it's something that is never going to harm the snake in any way what's so Eva he just gets to chill on a nice piece of soft cloth in his hide ?
 

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Lol I will never wear a cloth to get my scent on it for a snake. I was trying to not be rude but it is actually the most ridiculous piece of python keeping advice I’ve ever heard. I thought tub feeding was a joke but that takes the cake. Pythons are very simple creatures and generally the simplest husbandry methods tend to be the best methods when it comes to these animals.
 

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I just let mine sit in a non busy area ( corner of bedroom) for a week or so then offer a feed, then wait 3-4 days and try to handle, no scenting needed

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Lol I will never wear a cloth to get my scent on it for a snake. I was trying to not be rude but it is actually the most ridiculous piece of python keeping advice I’ve ever heard. I thought tub feeding was a joke but that takes the cake. Pythons are very simple creatures and generally the simplest husbandry methods tend to be the best methods when it comes to these animals.
Why is tub feeding a joke ? I was told that if you feed some snakes in there enclosures they can become defensive and that's why ppl tub feed, but yet again so many opinions about everything.
 

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Tub feeding to reduce defensiveness is a myth, if its defensive, its gonna bite you when you try to get it out for the tub, and then you have to move it back right after its had a feed and risk regurgitation.... 0 sense, if theyre defensive, its either a husbandry issue or theyre just defensive by nature I.E jungle pythons, 99% of them are assholes... 1% is ok

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As herptology said keep it simple. Why take an already nervous tiny hatchling python out of its home it feels comfortable in out and place it into a big empty tub which most of the time will make it even more nervous, only to handle the poor thing straight after it’s eaten when it’s feeling most vulnerable and risking it striking and possibly regurgitating its meal. I honestly feel that pythons being cage defensive has nothing to do with feeding in it’s enclosure and mainly comes down to the snakes individual personality. I’d almost guarantee that 99% of experienced keepers do not tub feed for the reasons I have explained. I have 9 carpets and a big black head, a few of them I can grab straight out there tanks bare handed if I wanted to and they don’t even flinch, a couple of them are pretty nervous and try to flee when I hook them, and 2 are just complete pricks that will strike at you no matter what you do but as I said they’re all different. My advice for you would be to talk to whichever breeder your getting your animal from to pick you out one that is a very strong, responsive feeder but isn’t overly nervous and doesn’t mind being handled. Hope this helps you out somewhat mate
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Lol got sidetracked for half hour halfway thru replying to you and herptology beat me to it
 
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hello :) depends on the snake imo my first stimmy I got, the breeder told me he was super good with handling so i actually handled him for a bit on the first day no problems at all he actually seemed to like me straight away haha. for my jungle I just got I knew he wasn't the best handler and they are generally defensive and scared cats. so I just gave him a week before handling. but rule of thumb is 5-7 days from when they get in there new home.

Why is tub feeding a joke ? I was told that if you feed some snakes in there enclosures they can become defensive and that's why ppl tub feed, but yet again so many opinions about everything.
I tub feed my stimmy also and let him smell my hand before I pick him up. never bitten once or even been close. however it depends on the snake :)

I tub feed my stimmy also and let him smell my hand before I pick him up. never bitten once or even been close. however it depends on the snake :)
as in in the tub he lives in my bad haha :p and same as my jungle won't bother taking them out to a separate one, if one is a bit defensive you can touc them gently with a hook before pulling them out training them to let them know its not feeding time.
 
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