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Hey everyone.
I work in a child care centre and one of my littles guys brought this in today. It was found yesterday in a spiders web already dead. can anyone tell me what it is please? Sorry about the bad quality of the pic.
 

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I'd say a brown.
Please make sure none of the kids touch it anywhere near the head. They can still be venomous even after death.
 
Looks like a Keelback to me or some sort of colubrid - i'm not too familiar with the colubrids excluding the Tree Snakes and Keelback, so if it's not a Keelback than i don't know. If it is a colubrid it should have a small 'groove' running down its spine. If it is a Brown Snake it will have small brown blotches on its belly, which i presume it doesn't.
 
Head shape and scales don't look like typical textilis.
 
Very hard to tell, but I'm thinking maybe slatey grey?
 
Being in a spider web i would doubt its an eastern brown, they generally have bands and stuff as far as i know.

I would go with some species of elapid...

The spider would be a red back for sure, they are reptile specialists.
 
I think i can see a loreal scale, pretty hard to tell though, if so mags might be right with Stegonotus cucullatus
 
Being in a spider web i would doubt its an eastern brown, they generally have bands and stuff as far as i know.
I would go with some species of elapid...
The spider would be a red back for sure, they are reptile specialists.

Please excuse my ignorance but i try to avoid spiders and any associated knowledge... but the redback didn't actually kill that snake did it? It wasn't trying to eat it was it?
 
Rhinoplocephalus sp. ?
definately an elapid IMO after looking in cogger.
 
Please excuse my ignorance but i try to avoid spiders and any associated knowledge... but the redback didn't actually kill that snake did it? It wasn't trying to eat it was it?

Well since i didnt see it happen i cant guarantee it, but redbacks do catch and kill reptiles such as small snakes and lizards very often IMO its probably why their webs and venom are so strong.
 
What are ppl's thoughts on on it being Rhinoplocephalus sp. ?
 
" can anyone tell me what it is please? "

I'm pretty sure its a snake.
 
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