No one is going to stop the breeding of jags, zebras other cross morphs, so what should be done with the sibs? I personally think that they should be culled, so that these mongrels don't get sold and then passed off as "pure".
I think the idea of it being culled is to stop it being on sold as something else rather than it being a cross.why cull a sib because its a cross.
a Indian women and a Australia man have a child together. should it be culled because its a cross?
why cull a sib because its a cross.
a Indian women and a Australia man have a child together. should it be culled because its a cross?
I think if they're clearly labelled as sibs of 'whatever' species then there is nothing wrong, there will always be someone willing to give an animal a home.
I personally dont believe hybrid breeders are only in it for the money
Some are
But others genuinely seem to believe that their breeding programs will benefit the pet industry
They are probably quite correct about that
This is where the water starts getting murky
Breeder wants x/x/x
So they start mixing and matching the best of each sub species together
A few come out nice and are kept
A few come out not too bad and are sold
Most come out ordinary
As far as I know all legal documents in Aus regarding sale of reptiles include the full scientific name
Even if a hybrid breeder wanted to they cannot simply say Carpet Python etc
So no matter what mix it is they must put one of cheynei,bredli,spilota etc etc on the document
Then you have a legal document stating that the hybrid is not a hybrid but a 'pure' xxxxx
With some hybrids their parentage is clear and they can easily be picked as crosses
With others they look like either parent and can easily be mistaken as 'pure' lines
So they only possile way to maintain 'pure lines' in the future is to cull hybrid siblings
Question
Do you want to be part of an industry that kills healthy babies because they dont fit into plan XXXX???
Question
Is there a workable alternative to culling hybrid siblings???
That sentence is the core of the problem
Breeder produces 15 hatchies
10 are given away or sold as hybrid siblings
They look like mum or dad; not crosses
Owner then gets bored and sells them
On paper they are 'pure' xxxx
New owner breeds them thinking they are 'pure' and sells the result as 'pure'
One or two generations later the mixed genes start showing up
So culling hybrid siblings is NOT just a matter of convenience
I think you missed my point, the above highlighted that you mention is the unscrupulous jerk part of the equation that exists. As long as they are passed on with the knowledge they are sibs/hybrids even though on paper they are only 'x' I don't see the problem.
Last week I sold a pair of diamond x jungles which were Jag sibs. They were sold to me with the clear knowledge of what they were and I sold them with VERY clear and specific information of what they were. As they're roughly 75% Diamond they are listed as Spilota Spilota but quite clearly are not pure diamonds in any way from appearances, and there is no way they can be legitimately passed off as them.
But I guess therein lies the difference - I'm a conscienscous owner and not an unscrupulous jerk...
I think the real core of the issue when it comes to hiding a snakes genetic makeup is an issue with state licensing departments and their taxa held lists. If hybrids/sibs were on schedule lists then they would be able to be labelled and sold as exactly what they are instead of what they nearest resemble.
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