Thanx jimmy.It is worth the 2 hour drive if the glass is that cheap.Please PM me or ring us on 0421089253 and we will organize something for sure as Wilbur the Blackhead is in my Carpet pythons cage. :cry: The things we do for love!!!! My 7 foot and 5 foot carpet pair are in 40 ltr plastic containers cause I broke Wilburs glass. Sob 4 of my snakes have lost their homes to keep my woman happy. By the way I was the one that paid $400 for a pair of shinglebacks.And it was worth it as Tennille got them for mothers Day off me and she LOVED it,as in one of her earlier posts about scaley presents for valentines day.The pair are very healthy and worth the money as I got them of a friend who was using them for breeding stock and the $400 was only money value as I swapped something I got for nothing,so $400 was VERY cheap.