Legality of preserving (taxidermy & cremation, etc.) licenced species?

[LadyJ]

Although all my current herps are very far from passing I'm incredibly curious regarding the current legalities of preserving (retaining) deceased wildlife?

I'm a hobbyist taxidermist and know someone very skilled in the area who suggested mounting my snakes when they do pass (and my frozen blue-tongue)... while this I probably wouldn't do to a snake I've known for many years (different to a fox you've seen live for 20 seconds...) are there any permits required? Is it even legal? I'm thinking it might be if you don't plan on selling the finished "product"...

And cremation? I'm cremating my bluey but do you need to apply for permits to do so to licenced wildlife? If you retain bones or other remains (getting morbid, but I produce artwork with animal remains) is that any different?

So lost. :|

 

[Chris1]

cant help with the taxidermy q, but ive had a couple of beardys cremated, no permits required.

i used Petrest for the cremation, they were very respectful with the body and guarantee you get your own critter back.

 

[LadyJ]

cant help with the taxidermy q, but ive had a couple of beardys cremated, no permits required.

i used Petrest for the cremation, they were very respectful with the body and guarantee you get your own critter back.

Aah, thank you Chris! Interesting, I thought it would be harder than that... as for cremation I DIY it, I didn't trust the limited sources I had available, especially when they quoted me $200 and then extra charge for me to view it! Good thing I have friends who work around industrial furnaces... :lol:

EDIT: I'm a Victorian resident if it helps, but it would be interesting to compare states

 

[Waterrat]

J, cremation is no problem, you can dispose of a dead animal any way you like (within limits - don't throw it over the fence to your neighbors lol).
Preserving / taxidermy / keeping parts of, etc., is OK as long as you keep a record of it on your book. Dead reptiles or their parts must be registered the same as live ones. If you need to take the dead animal to a taxidermist, you need a permit to move (that cover's the taxidermist's posterior as well). It's best to enquire at your local QPWS office, they may have their own ways of dealing with such situations, i.e. taking the animal there and back when it's done.

cheers

 

[LadyJ]

J, cremation is no problem, you can dispose of a dead animal any way you like (within limits - don't throw it over the fence to your neighbors lol).
Preserving / taxidermy / keeping parts of, etc., is OK as long as you keep a record of it on your book. Dead reptiles or their parts must be registered the same as live ones. If you need to take the dead animal to a taxidermist, you need a permit to move (that cover's the taxidermist's posterior as well). It's best to enquire at your local QPWS office, they may have their own ways of dealing with such situations, i.e. taking the animal there and back when it's done.

cheers

Thank you WaterRat, interesting... so I can keep cremates and that's counted as diposed? As far as the taxidermist goes that'd be me personally doing the work.

 

[Chris1]

Aah, thank you Chris! Interesting, I thought it would be harder than that... as for cremation I DIY it, I didn't trust the limited sources I had available, especially when they quoted me $200 and then extra charge for me to view it! Good thing I have friends who work around industrial furnaces... :lol:
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lol, never though to do it myself,..for me the whole process seems to help me deal with the grief of losing one, so im happy with the cost.
plus the wooden box with engraved brass plate looks nice over the fireplace too,.....

 

[LadyJ]

lol, never though to do it myself,..for me the whole process seems to help me deal with the grief of losing one, so im happy with the cost.
plus the wooden box with engraved brass plate looks nice over the fireplace too,.....

Hehe, fair enough, I have very warped ideals when it comes to mortality and the process of grieving (I have 3 dead coyotes perched on my bed, along with a wolf and few grey fox...). I just prefer the hands-on nature, to me it's a highly personal experience.

Wooden box with name plate sounds gorgeous, I ended up with a classic silver engraved urn for my big ol' bluey.

 

[Australis]

Not to get the thread off topic too much Ladyj... But.. Chris1 any chance you could post (Or pm if you prefer) a photo?

 

[Chris1]

lol, im fine with dead stuff, just not when its one of my dearly beloveds,...then im a bawling mess for weeks,....

australis, pics of the 'caskets'?

if so, i'll take a pic and post it when i get home,...

 

[Pines]

In NSW I think you need a taxidermy permit to keep protected animals

Pines

 

[Tassie97]

ewwww i couldnt do that D:

 

[Australis]

australis, pics of the 'caskets'?

I misread, i thought you had them "stuffed". No need to post a photo of a box on my account

 

[Snowman]

has anyone had their snakes preserved like this....... Personally I just like living pets

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[Bel03]

:shock: wow. Im a bit of a sook when it comes to death......& im not sure i could ever have anything stuffed on my bed........no matter how much i loved it! LadyJ......do you have nighmares? :lol: Sorry, but i would! Snowman, i do actually like the look of the above 'display'........are these your pets or something you seen elsewhere?

 

[rum.pig]

has anyone had their snakes preserved like this....... Personally I just like living pets

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Here in the NT we are the same as QLD as in you need a permit dead or alive not including ashes.
I like your Idea snowman even if you do not wish to keep it yourself there would be plenty of schools or museums etc that I'm sure would appreciate a good specimen and it sure bets them taking one from the wild.
I work with a few science nuts so I will see what I can find out.

 

[Supra_man87]

I'm not sure about other states, but I had my bearded dragon taxidermied about 12yrs ago and I had to get a special permit from NPWS. This was in NSW.

 

[waruikazi]

The NT museum usually isn't too keen on anything unless you can give locality data. I dropped a whole bunch of roadkill off to them last week and the curator was adamant that he didn't want them unless there was data to go with them and i found out why. He showed me in their freezers and there were literally thousands of specimens (from birds and frogs right through to fish) with no collection data. So unless it is a rare or unusual animal i can't see any reason why a museum or any institution would take a captive reptile.

Here in the NT we are the same as QLD as in you need a permit dead or alive not including ashes.
I like your Idea snowman even if you do not wish to keep it yourself there would be plenty of schools or museums etc that I'm sure would appreciate a good specimen and it sure bets them taking one from the wild.
I work with a few science nuts so I will see what I can find out.

 

[REPTILIAN-KMAN]

in NSW you do need a permit to get any native wildlife taxidermied and it needs to be done by a registered taxidermist,

over the years i have lost a few snakes and have them all in jars being preserved,heres a list of whats in my jars


two * death adders ( one adult one yearling )
four * diamond Pythons ( see below ) yearlings
1 * columbian red tail boa

a mate of mine used to collect large amonts of reptiles and wiped them all out when introducing exotics to his collection which is how i end up with them in jars

 

[Snakewoman]

has anyone had their snakes preserved like this.../QUOTE]

This looks quite good... probably costs a lot though.

 

[waruikazi]

has anyone had their snakes preserved like this.../QUOTE]

This looks quite good... probably costs a lot though.

And wont last long if it is sitting in the light.