Overseas macaw

[brisbaneboy]

Hi guys I looked into acquiring a macaw but have put it off until I can afford It got a letter from an overseas breeder who Said they can ship me one is it a scam
This is their letter


Hello Jamie, thanks for your interest in our parrots. We are not in Australia but We can ship parrots to Australia and the parrots will be transported with all their documents; CITES certificate, health certificate, vaccination records, import-export CITES permit, certificate of veterinary inspection, etc. The parrot will be transported to Australia and delivered to you at your house or at your desired delivery address.
We have shipped birds for a good number of years and we know how to do it properly. We know the best crates to use for various species and how to provide food and moisture in transit. Properly ventilated crates will be used for the shipping of the parrot. There are perches built in on the crate's floor. The crates are clearly marked with colorful "LIVE BIRD" and "UP" stickers. We provide enough food to last for several days as a contingency in case of flight delays.
We make all of the shipping arrangements and use direct flights if possible. We use the best pet carrier service, taking into consideration transit time, weather, and cost factor. We check weather conditions at the receiving end and only ship when we consider it safe to do so.
We put our birds' health above all other considerations and do not ship when we feel it could be dangerous to the birds' well-being. As a result, We only ship well-weaned babies.
Your parrot will transported in a long crate (36" x 12" x 12") which is quite suitable for large macaw species.
Please tell us the species of parrots which you need and we will give you more detailed information and prices.
Get back to us as soon as possible, confirming your desired order and we will proceed from there.
My regards,
Mark Allen,
Director,
Mio-Edificio Aviary.

 

[J-A-X]

its a scam. Those emails have been around for years, they've even offered eggs before,
The same import rules apply to birds as reptiles. It aint gonna happen unless you are a zoo

Either head to the newsagent and grab a copy of australian bird keeper and check the classifieds, or find an Australian parrot site and ask them for a list of breeders,
Even if it was legit, think of the nasties it could bring in with it.

Keep saving you money, they're not a cheap bird, last time I checked they were still in the "OMG" price range

 

[ingie]

Much better to buy one locally anyway. They are quite expensive and you really want to see the breeders facilities and meet them in person to discuss their hand raising practices etc to know you are getting a good quality healthy bird. It is also a good idea to buy from someone who tests their breeding birds for all the nasty bird diseases like psittacosis and beak and feather.

I hope you have a good set of ears and no neighbours for 5km lol!!!!!!!

 

[J-A-X]

I've just had a quick look and the blue and golds are still over $5,000 per bird ($15,000 for a bonded but non breeding pair) from reputable breeders
As per the last post, they're not a quiet bird, and don't forget they can live 60+ years and I'd be keeping it away from wild birds (diseases)

 

[Pythoninfinite]

As above. Currently there are no imports of parrots from overseas allowed, even for zoos, following a number of closely managed imports during the 1990s. This "breeder" is clearly a scammer because any reputable overseas breeder would know that Australia's regulations prevent the legal movement of exotic birds into this country.

If you're truly interested, consider that a macaw is at least a 60 year committment - they are gorgeous and intelligent, but they are loud, destructive, and extremely demanding of time, especially if you have only one - they need to be part of a flock and have a close partner with whom they spend ALL their time - can you fulfill that role? If not, the bird will become stressed and exhibit extreme antisocial behaviours. best to keep them in groups of at least 2 so this doesn't happen... but then you will eventually lose the tameness you may be seeking. It has to be about the bird's needs, not yours...

Jamie

 

[brisbaneboy]

thats what i thought, i enquired to these people before i found out where they were located but found this email they sent me today and was curious, i have looked at buying one from australia but as above the OMG price has put this one on the backburner for a while. as for the commitment of owning such a bird i am very aware that it a huge responsibility and am definatly looking at getting a bonded pair... so for now ill just continue to admire these beautiful birds

how many breeders of hyacinth macaws are there in australia just out of curiosity

 

[graffix]

Hyacinth macaws are the largest, loudest and biggest pain in the A of all macaws. There are not huge numbers of them here in Australia but they are available in limited numbers. Because of their limited numbers their gene pool is not that extensive so getting a totally unrelated pair is difficult.
Macaws in a suburban area are great for meeting neighbors, they will come from miles around, not all just wanting to say HI either.

 

[brisbaneboy]

ha ha id love to meet more of my neighbours

 

[Skelhorn]

hahaha ourr old mates had a green and gold, absolutely incredible BUT if you can't spend at least 12 hours with it a day, don't bother, they are too smart and require attention and get extremely lonely and depressed if left alone too long.

We own two Eclectus Parrots, they are great...would only recommend one tho...and a male.

 

[Pythoninfinite]

hahaha ourr old mates had a green and gold, absolutely incredible BUT if you can't spend at least 12 hours with it a day, don't bother, they are too smart and require attention and get extremely lonely and depressed if left alone too long.

We own two Eclectus Parrots, they are great...would only recommend one tho...and a male.

Actually that's probably a Blue & Gold... we have a pair of them here and they are very noisy for brief periods - not as bad as conures, which squawk all day, but the macaws can be heard for about 3 km on a good day! That's why we live deep in the bush on 100 acres!

Jamie

 

[Monitor_Keeper]

Yeah fake as, it is like them steroid websites that say they can ship it to you and blah blah blah but once you have paid they try to ship them and then boom taken at customs and warning sent to your house haha

 

[Skelhorn]

Actually that's probably a Blue & Gold... Jamie

haha yeah wasn't paying attention whilst typing lol
3km...F that haha. Our Eclectus can be sorta noisey but there are alot of wild birds on the river here so they sort of blend in, but as I type I am listening to them talking to each other!

 

[gex13]

macaws need alot of attention. try getting an eclectus parrot there nice birds ive got a male and a female and there friendly and are still a bigger sort of bird the males are more friendlier i think ahah

 

[ChargerWA]

Or get a sun conure and hand raise it. Their sqwark has been likened to the hinge of a rusty gate x 100, but they are incredibly beautiful and do well when hand raised with the added bonus of not being as physically large as Macaws and our aussie cockatoos.

I bought one about 5 years ago. It cost $400 at that time, they might even be cheaper now.

 

[Exotic_Doc]

I love sun conures ^^ . Dude pretty much everything has been said about maccaws. Tread very very carefully if you want to get into them. Very expensive birds who need a very experienced owner. If you screw up with raising them you can have a disaster on your hand. Grab yourself something smaller and learn with that, like a sun conure or even an eclectus... Plus importing a maccaw is damn near impossible so those letters are all scam BS. Blue and golds are the cheapest in oz and they are still going for about $20,000 a pair !!! Im trying to get my hands on grey parrot which is harder than a maccaw atm.

 

[james.5]

Sun conures! one of my favorite birds!

 

[J-A-X]

I'd recommend the eckies too, great personalities, they can have their moments playing "I am parrot hear me roar" but if treated right it's not constant, they're very intelligent, easily bored like macaws but a lower price tag, and have specific dietary needs (lots of fruit and veg) so not the sort of bird you can top up the seed bowl and leave for a couple of days, they also have a long life span, so the commitment needs to be there for that

 

[Exotic_Doc]

WOOW those are beautiful eccies you have there Jaxrtfm Iv handraised 3 clutches and i freakin love them !! BTW for people that dont know, the green one is a male and the red and blue is a female. Most people say the females are easier to deal with but i really never saw a difference tbh. Jax are they a bonded pair?

 

[Pythoninfinite]

Blue and golds are the cheapest in oz and they are still going for about $20,000 a pair !!!

Nope, Hahn's Macaws are probably the cheapest, although small, they are very engaging. You would be able to pick up B&Gs now for $12-13k now, from the best breeders - less if you want take chances with dodgy breeders, but like most things, you get what you pay for. Anyone wanting these high-end animals should always deal with a breeder who will give them a fully documented vet exam, including bloods - cost around $450 per bird. There are lots of horror stories where the cheapest option has become a catastrophe...

Jax are they a bonded pair?

I also breed eckies, but let the parents raise their young. Eckies are not strong bonding birds like Macaws - females in nests are usually attended by several males if they are in large community aviaries, and it is certainly what happens in the wild. They mix & match partners very easily if they have the chance, unlike Macaws, which may change partners sometimes, but rarely.

Jamie

 

[43nickw]

macaw

i found 3 sites like this all were fake all ended with money transfers to camaroon,all fake i got mine on the gold coast for $7000 he is blue and yellow