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Unfortunately, you can't legislate that people think hard about the animal's requirements before they get a dog. I teach dog training at a club which only uses positive reinforcement. Once we told a man he was not allowed to hit his dog during class. He said "Why not? I hit my kids, too!" He was asked not to return. I take heart from the people who come along and really work hard to train their dogs to be good, healthy pets. Yes, we cover health issues during training, too. Given that we are in a public park in a paralysis tick area, I tell class members about ticks and parvo every class.

Also on the subject of pets, did you see the 60 minutes show about people in the US who have lions, tigers and bears as pets? They profiled the people who rescue these animals and attempt to rehabilitate them. It's totally insane. There are twice as many tigers in private hands in the USA than in the wild. It's a wonder more owners aren't eaten every year.
 
I agree with this entire thread.
I would hopefully think I am a good pet owner. I take my dogs to obedience weekly and my older girl is a flyball dog. so she is getting exercised and socialised, as well as being pretty obedient.
all of my pets are desexed, except my new pup, who will be bred in a few years, but only because i already have 3 of the pups sold!! lol. i will add that she is a registered working kelpie with excellent bloodlines and is very much in demand, i was lucky i got her at all.
my cats are from registered breeders, which have to be desexed before sold, unless going to a show breeders home. i think this is a great idea and that the canine control council should follow this example.
i also think that pet shops should not be allowed to sell any animals at all. not even desexed ones.
i cannot stand people who mistreat animals and would dearly love to punch people in the face. i have an emaciated thoroughbred gelding on my property at the moment, who is still skin and bones after 6 months of being back with his caring and original owner. he was THAT skinny.
so too bad to you people who mistreat dogs, if the RSPCA takes them away its for good reason. I have 5 dogs, one horse, 2 cats, 5 birds and 7 snakes. they are all extremely well cared for, and if i couldn't care for them i would find them wonderful homes. none of this bull crap about not having enough money etc, DONT HAVE THEM IF YOU CAN'T FEED AND CARE FOR THEM!!!!
 
I survived the whole rant, and completely agree with all that has been said.

Pet owners, by which i mean dog and cat owners, need to take more responsibility.

Pet shops should only be alowed to sell dogs and cats that have been desexed, pretty sure the RSPCA has to desex the animals before they get re-homed, so the other sellers should be aswell.

I also believe puppy training should be mandatory, I'm working as a delivery driver and have been bitten twice (not broken skin but still) by dogs the owners said are "well trained" just seconds ago as it came bounding out towards be barking its head off.

And as for cats I won't go any further into it then; they shouldn't be alowed free reign of the street, and especialy it shouldn't be alowed for them to be outside at night.

Back to you Amy

I agree with all of that.

Yes the RSPCA desexes all their animals before sale, it should compulsory in most circumstances unless permission grants otherwise.

I think when people presume their dog is well trained it's really as long as THEY get along with their dog then everyone else should deal with it. If someone says otherwise owners probably only deny it because they don't want to admit they don't have a dog that has any manners.
When I was younger I was terrified of dogs (I mean to the point that I wouldn't go to people's houses if they had a dog and I'd have to ask them if they had one before I came over). I've got over most of my fear and know how to react now but I still have those nerves from when I was younger. I never knew how to react so I always ran, and I ended up in a few bad experiences. Now I know better and I've never been bitten since. But even so, I don't want a dog I've never met racing after me, whenever I see a dog off it's leash I think 'crap...'. Owners should be mindful of people who are afraid of dogs, it doesn't matter if THEY think they're dog won't bite, how am I supposed to know that?

As for cats I don't hate them, I do actually like them (feel free to bite my head off I truly don't care). But they should be kept indoors. An animal is an animal and a cat is going to be a cat. We brought them here therefore we need to take responsibility of what they can do the wildlife. You can train a cat to walk on a leash, you can build an enclosure- it's not as though they can NEVER venture outside. I used to live next to a vet nurse who used to walk her cat around the yard on a harness and it was really cute. Owners just need to be mindful of their instincts, cats are not 'domesticated' in the way a dog is. And on top of that people need to stop hating them for having these insticts, they should mad at the owners who allow these animals to make use of these instincts on native animals.


Unfortunately, you can't legislate that people think hard about the animal's requirements before they get a dog. I teach dog training at a club which only uses positive reinforcement. Once we told a man he was not allowed to hit his dog during class. He said "Why not? I hit my kids, too!" He was asked not to return. I take heart from the people who come along and really work hard to train their dogs to be good, healthy pets. Yes, we cover health issues during training, too. Given that we are in a public park in a paralysis tick area, I tell class members about ticks and parvo every class.

Some people really make you wonder... :rolleyes: If you think you already know how to work with your dog then why the hell dog to a dog training class, you know? And what kind of respect does he have for his kids if he punishes them in the same way as an animal?
 
lol yeah my cats are indoors only, and go outside on leads!! i look like a tool, but whatever. they have such crappy hunting skills anyway. one is a ragdoll and the other birman, both breeds which pretty much lack any cat instincts at all. but still i won't risk it. I is responsible. :)
 
I have 3 indoor-only cats which I also walk in my yard on leashes. They really enjoy their walks and not one has ever tried getting out so people who say it's cruel or unnatural to keep them in - my cats are proof that you're wrong! All my cats were desexed before I was allowed to bring them home and our house is one giant playground for them (scratching posts in nearly every room, toys EVERYWHERE etc). One has tummy (poop) issues but rather than surrender her we work around it and I've been known to babywipe her bum, this is what caring for your pets properly really looks like lol
 
Thank you, its good to hear from people who keep cats correctly (well my opinion of correct lol)


As for cats I don't hate them, I do actually like them
Although I used to hate them for what they are and what they're doing to the native wildlife, i've come to realise it's just what they naturaly do, as you said. They are predators, very good ones, and are not domesticated as well as most people tend to think.
Now i just hate the owners :p
Those that don't take responsibility for protecting the wild animals their pet is going to kill.
 
my next door neighbour has 3 cat's and the furballs are always outside, all day and all night. I have an avery full of lorikeets, kakarikis, and a few cockatiels and they are always in my yard harassing my birds and hunting the wild birds that come to visit. Have mentioned quite loudly that my snakes would love a feed of dim sim and all of a sudden they have been taken inside! BTW: I would never do anything to intentionally hurt an animal or take someones pet from them, but sometimes simple mind games can have an impact ;)
 
Part of being a good, responsible pet owner is to consider people and animals around you, including wildlife, as well as taking proper care of your actual pets! My two cats are completely indoors unless I take them outside on leads. Both are perfectly fit and healthy, and happy! By keeping them inside, it keeps them safe (from disease, dogs, cars etc), it stops them from being a nuisance to neighbours and it keeps the wildlife safe! Win win all round
 
My thoughts exactly.
Hey AMY22, here is a choice idea for you... why don't you either read your 'friends' the rant or join up on some kinda cat n dog forum for some cut and paste action so you aren't just preaching to the converted for a pat on the back.
If you feel so strongly about it, then post on a site where you might make some kind of difference...
ren

There's an 'other animals' section for a reason my dear, because there are people on here who happen to like or work with a range of animals as well as reptiles. So you are going to get all kinds of topics and stories. If you don't like it, don't read it, otherwise take a page out of your book and go somewhere else, it's very simple. :p

Peace out XxXx
 
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Please be mindful of the fact I have told this person exactly what they have done wrong, exactly what needs to be changed and fixed when/if they get their dogs back, and I shared this on here for people who have the mind to know better than to do the things this person did. You have no idea what I have done to change the situation so don't be so quick to make presumptions. This person might know better by now because I spent 3 days writing back and forth telling her the laws and regulations of what she has done wrong. I could have contacted the RSPCA myself. I could have told the RSPCA what she has told me. I could be volunteering or working to better educate people about things. How would you know?
And speaking of having a sook, you seem to have fallen into the habit of it yourself. This website isn't run based on what YOU like people to talk about, I do apologise for that.
Anything esle you say is going to be ignored and reported.

Thankyou.
 
Part of being a good, responsible pet owner is to consider people and animals around you, including wildlife, as well as taking proper care of your actual pets! My two cats are completely indoors unless I take them outside on leads. Both are perfectly fit and healthy, and happy! By keeping them inside, it keeps them safe (from disease, dogs, cars etc), it stops them from being a nuisance to neighbours and it keeps the wildlife safe! Win win all round

Funny you should say that now, there are some cats fighting outside right now! Actually I think they might have stopped....:?
Once I went to check the mail one morning and there was blood all down my driveway from a fight. I don't even know who they belong to (well I think I know 2 owners), otherwise I'd do the whole suss note in the letterbox thing. I did that for the neighbour who kept putting someone elses bin at the end of my driveway if it wasn't moved soon after rubbish collection, and it worked! I haven't seen a bin since! :p

But anyway, it's funny how hearing possums racing around screeching outside doesn't even phase me and I actually enjoy it, but when it's cats...
 
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I try to put the bin out on my lawn, but sometimes have to move it over in front of the neighbours (not in the driveway- on the footpath out of the way) because people always park in front of my house, so the truck can't reach the bins! I move them as soon as I can, though :)

Barking dogs probably annoy me the most. I'm just not as keen on dogs as I am of cats I spose :) Having said that, ANY barking, cats fighting, possums fighting etc really annoys me when I'm trying to study lol. Out come the headphones!
 
My neighbours dog used to bark ALL the time, even when I was checking my mail (I am attached to another house, or HOMETTE as the proper call them). Because they are so close to me it would drive me insane. I leave the house- the dog starts barking, I come home the dog starts barking. My head was about to explode from the insanity it was driving me to, and on top of that I'd nearly been attacked when they had it walking around. If I was in my house or coming home and that dog was out, I was pretty much trapped. So finally I decided I was going to do something, put a dog training manual in their letterbox (something somebody did to my aunite years ago), and then if that didn't work I was going to call the council.
But then one day I noticed someone trying to look over my fence and it turned out to be someone from the council (woo hoo!). Someone else had finally had enough too and complained, she and I had a good talk, I scored some work experience, and the dog hasn't barked since! :p
 
Not meaning to hijack thread in any way but I have a dog/cat related rant from the weekend!

FIRST.. I get home from work on friday arvo and there is a cat covering it's mess in my garden so I proceeded to get out of my car and throw a shoe at it.. unfortunately I missed it on this occasion but next time I see it I'll be sure to improve my aim :x

I see this cat wandering the streets A LOT and I've chased it off my car a couple of times. I know which house it is from.. I wonder how they would feel if I let my dog climb all over their cars??!?!?

SECONDLY.. My partner and I were out all day yesterday and when we came home we could see that a dog had relieved himself on the tyre of my partners car and then if that wasn't bad enough it had (for lack of a better word) pooped in the garden at my front door!

I was ropeable! It's disgusting.. I hate irresponsible pet owners!!!!!!

Ok end of rant :evil:
 
I think I'm pretty lucky in regard to dogs, where I am at the moment. One neighbour doesn't seem to have any pets, and the other (I'm in a duplex/the divided house situation thing) has a ridgeback cross girl. The ridgeback X never barks at me, whether I fly in on my bike etc, drive in, or walk in, whether I'm in the backyard etc which is great, but she does bark if a stranger comes in, which is good! She's a very obedient dog too, listens to her owners immediately- the type of dog I like!

With animals leaving mess in yards; It was quite gross at one stage as I'd made a new veggie garden in the yard (lettuce, cabbage, broccoli, carrots etc) and one afternoon I saw a cat in there doing its business, and frequently saw bloody cat prints in the garden. Keep your pets on your own property, people!
 
Okay, so a bit of an update to those that are interested- it's getting a little ugly now. I kind of snapped a little because of the way this person is now talking about the RSPCA, (dropping the C bomb and that she will never bring an animal she finds to their shelter) so I had enough. I had tried to be nice and tell them the facts in a way that didn't seem harsh but this time I said straight out 'you have not fed them properly, whoever told you to feed them what you were feeding them has absolutely no idea in hell what they are talkingg about , you've had 2 litters that have died of Parvo yet you still haven't got any of them vaccinated, you haven't got them registered, you own more dogs than allowed, and as much as you say you care about them there is a difference between caring and CARING'.
She hasn't responded so my best guess is she didn't like being told she didn't care for her pets.
 
So you should snap at her, you've been polite enough, theres only so many times you can say nicely that shes a cruel and undeserving owner.

Some people just don't listern...or care.
 
I know its sometimes difficult to do, but good on you. People often don't take the more subtle 'hints' and pointers telling them they're irresponsible and not taking proper care of their pets, so need a big wake up call. unfortunately though, a lot of people like this seem so set in their ways, care so little and are so damn stubborn that they won't change, even now, which is a real pity- I wish there was more we could do for the animals, which are the ones not suffering, not the idiots that own them
 
I don't like to be nasty when I can but man, my head was about to explode listening to her crap that she's a wonderful caring owner and the RSPCA are blind C's. She is just getting sick of waiting, I get that, but open your eyes to the fact you've broken the law.
 
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