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solar 17
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WARNING - The procedure for removal of eggs by massage is a specialist process not recommended to be undertaken by someone without significant experience and competence with this method.. This procedure is highly recommended to be only performed by a qualified veterinary professional..
I suppose l am going to get "flamed" by some people over this thread, but l have tossed it over for a couple of days and decided if it saves one snake l will be happy.
This is how l have removed possibly 80-100 eggs out of snakes that were "stuck fast"....the removal [and this is not for everybody] requires: a cropping needle [at least 6" or 15cm]16-18 gauge, a tube of KY Jelly [and yes thats a vaginal lubricant] and a 15 plus ml. syringe.
basically you fill the syringe with "KY" and bleed the air out through the cropping needle [which is now attached to the syringe] then "very gently" insert it into the cloaca very slowly sqeezing the syringe the whole time so you are lubricating as you go forward, when you come across the egg in the duct you will be able to feel your way around "the facing" head of the egg, now with a lot of care sqeeze probably 15+ ml of "jelly" around the egg, then remove your cropping needle and then externally massage "gently" and then work the egg out, but dont be afraid to use more "KY"
Repeat this proceedure for each egg "gently" massaging and working each egg out, the more eggs you have to get out the easier they will come-out, to get 10-12 eggs plus out takes about 30 minutes.
IMO and experirence only about 5% of eggs are any good even with studious removal of "the jelly" but your snake will be fine.
The snake/critter will be tired next day but in "all" cases in which l have been involved, l have followed up and they have eaten again within 72hrs
and showed absolutely "no side affect what so ever" in 100% of cases.
Now l am not opposed to surgery in a lot of cases but l believe it is "totally" not required in this instance.
Even if you dont feel confidant to talk to your vet about this proceedure it will [imo] save a costly and painfull proceedure [for your snake].
My background experience comes from approx. 40 years of crop feeding young birds[chicks] which is not for everyone but is highly effective and can and often does mean saving a life.
After seeing a friends MD with compacted eggs some 10-12 years ago and no vet for a days drive l told him about the cropping needle feed system and thought we could "adapt it" and bingo and since then at a guess l would have removed "l guess" 80-100 eggs "WITH NO" down side.
Needless to say l believe three items are an essential bit of kit 1/ a25+ml syringe 2/ KY Jelly and last but most importantly a "cropping needle" as these are excellent for bridging or holding a herps mouth open for checking and also for assisting with prolapsing as they are surgical grade stainless steel and have "no" sharp edges at all.......solar 17 [Baden]
I suppose l am going to get "flamed" by some people over this thread, but l have tossed it over for a couple of days and decided if it saves one snake l will be happy.
This is how l have removed possibly 80-100 eggs out of snakes that were "stuck fast"....the removal [and this is not for everybody] requires: a cropping needle [at least 6" or 15cm]16-18 gauge, a tube of KY Jelly [and yes thats a vaginal lubricant] and a 15 plus ml. syringe.
basically you fill the syringe with "KY" and bleed the air out through the cropping needle [which is now attached to the syringe] then "very gently" insert it into the cloaca very slowly sqeezing the syringe the whole time so you are lubricating as you go forward, when you come across the egg in the duct you will be able to feel your way around "the facing" head of the egg, now with a lot of care sqeeze probably 15+ ml of "jelly" around the egg, then remove your cropping needle and then externally massage "gently" and then work the egg out, but dont be afraid to use more "KY"
Repeat this proceedure for each egg "gently" massaging and working each egg out, the more eggs you have to get out the easier they will come-out, to get 10-12 eggs plus out takes about 30 minutes.
IMO and experirence only about 5% of eggs are any good even with studious removal of "the jelly" but your snake will be fine.
The snake/critter will be tired next day but in "all" cases in which l have been involved, l have followed up and they have eaten again within 72hrs
and showed absolutely "no side affect what so ever" in 100% of cases.
Now l am not opposed to surgery in a lot of cases but l believe it is "totally" not required in this instance.
Even if you dont feel confidant to talk to your vet about this proceedure it will [imo] save a costly and painfull proceedure [for your snake].
My background experience comes from approx. 40 years of crop feeding young birds[chicks] which is not for everyone but is highly effective and can and often does mean saving a life.
After seeing a friends MD with compacted eggs some 10-12 years ago and no vet for a days drive l told him about the cropping needle feed system and thought we could "adapt it" and bingo and since then at a guess l would have removed "l guess" 80-100 eggs "WITH NO" down side.
Needless to say l believe three items are an essential bit of kit 1/ a25+ml syringe 2/ KY Jelly and last but most importantly a "cropping needle" as these are excellent for bridging or holding a herps mouth open for checking and also for assisting with prolapsing as they are surgical grade stainless steel and have "no" sharp edges at all.......solar 17 [Baden]
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