Uber Black Bredli

[jele69]

Hello,

Does anyone recon this Bredli male has a more black than usual pattern on his head? He's only 4 months old so was wondering if that's a 'hatcho' thing or whether it will stay with him. The only reason I'm asking is because I've heard so many experienced herpers saying that Bredli have NO black at the head end...

...intriguing :?

Cheers!

 

[Scleropages]

I have 6 bredli and even as hatchys they never looked like that , the frist pic makes it look like a coastal , the 2nd has bredli markings , but pass.

 

[PJherps]

Looks like bredli cross

 

[Kurto]

Coastal X

 

[CodeRed]

crossed

 

[jele69]

....any more thoughts appreciated! to be honest, i'll be a little annoyed if i've been sold a cross because i'm keen to breed them down the line!

cheers

 

[underunden]

Wow, that looks very much so like a coastal/bredli cross. I'm no expert, but in the face it doesnt even look like a bredli in the 2nd picture. Very much like a coastal. Did you view the parents?

 

[beeman]

coastal x, dont breed it please

 

[Khagan]

The striping pattern is bredli, but the colour is unusual. While it could be likely it is crossed, maybe you should chase up some info from the breeder before making a final judgement, as anyone here can only give you a guestimate by looks none of us know the true history.

 

[jele69]

Yeah that's what's needed for a sure, i've been trying to contact her but she's not that easy to get a hold of! Thanks heaps for your comments

 

[jele69]

Wow, that looks very much so like a coastal/bredli cross. I'm no expert, but in the face it doesnt even look like a bredli in the 2nd picture. Very much like a coastal. Did you view the parents?

nope, didn't view the parents....perhaps not the smartest move ever?

 

[richardsc]

its not one of those bredli x diamonds that are on the herp classifieds each season????

 

[amy5189]

the first two pics made me think coastal as well, as i have a 2yo coastal who looks just like that... but the third pic makes it look more bredli. hard to tell without seeing the parents... :-(

 

[jele69]

I guess going on colour at this stage is a bit dodgy...are there anyway other ways to distinguish the sub-species of carpets? ie scale size, number, shape etc?

 

[waruikazi]

I think it's just dodgy photography. Many classic bredli of that age are a pretty drab colour and nothing like the red/orange they grow into. You just don't see pictures of them cause no breeder wants you to think they have drab bredli. Here's a pic of one that kinda shows what i'm talking about. It could be a cross but i wouldn't go crying foul just yet.

But no i don't ever recall seeing black on a young bredli's face.

 

[waruikazi]

You can sorta see a bit of black on this one's snout.

 

[Australis]

I guess going on colour at this stage is a bit dodgy...are there anyway other ways to distinguish the sub-species of carpets? ie scale size, number, shape etc?

Yes theres a number of differences scale wise.. which you can easily use to key-out your animal.

Just based on the head scales alone, i would say carpet.

 

[toddy1964]

I think its a coastal X, I've seen similar ones.

 

[jele69]

Here's one less close up. Looks more Bredli-like (i think) but still lots of black on the head...