Keeping red back spiders

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  1. Reptiles101

    Reptiles101 Well-Known Member

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    Anyone keep red-back spiders?
    Because I'm interested in keeping one, what's their care like, enclosure, temp, substrate wise? Is spraying the enclosure a good idea for water? I know they eat crickets flys and that stuff. I know their extremely dangerous so I won't be handling it.
     
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    The book Bugs Alive has a page on keeping then.
    You can keep then in a colony if ample space is available.
    You can keep them in a large jar with absorbent substrate.
     
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    They don't need lights to stay warm like lizards they could be kept in a big jar and that but I wouldn't recommended keeping them at all
     
  4. Trimeresurus

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    Why wouldn't you recommend them if they're easy to keep, their venom?

    To the OP, these things live in sheds ect, can't imagine they need specific heating, just give them some structure and food.
     
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    Not sure about keeping them but I have been bitten by one when I was 18, on the finger, when I picked up a garden chair by the underside.

    Massive pains and nausea for 2 days, felt like my arms and head were exploding and I was 'lucky' as that was only a small envenomation not needing antivenin.

    Just in case you wanted a personal account of what to expect from a bite. No more dangerous that keeping any venomous native. Antivenin is readily available.

    Let us know if you do get some, they're very pretty (the ladies at least).

    :)
     
  6. Reptiles101

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    Hey guys and gals! Finally found a lovely looking red-back spider, she's quite big, the size of a pea a little bigger. Decked out a nice little click-clack with some bark and some plants, some sticks so she can build her messy web :D I'm using some kritters crumble for substrate as it looks great! :)

    Ps I'll be adding more stuff soon! And plenty more pics hehe
     

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    Be careful
     
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    I am, still don't trust her not that I ever will.
     
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    Can I ask why a redback. Did you purchase her? As others have said be careful. If you get a decent bite from one of these they can make you very ill sometime causing you to need several vials of anti venoum. Some people have known to have died due to a bite from one of these.
     
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    Antivenom is available but doesn't get used much anymore - research shows it doesn't make any difference.

    Some unlucky people have prolonged pain after a red back bite, but most people are ok. I'm guessing that the people you speak of that have died did so from anaphylaxis rather than from toxic events of the venom.

    Take home message, don't get bitten & don't panic if you do (always a good idea to seek medical review).
     
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    They also make very messy webs so it is reccomemded to make an overhang so when you open the lid to feed her you won't wreck her web.
     
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    My mate was bitten a couple of years ago on the back of the knee and the hospital said that by that time he was suffering the worst of the effects and the antivenin would do nothing.

    He suffered nausea and intense pain with a lot of sweating especially local to the bite for two days. He suffered no side effects.

    I think that they would be a pretty cool pet and might get one too. The problem that I have is that in Queensland (Brisbane) you don't see many around anymore. Not sure if it is due to the Asian house gecko or not?
     
  13. Trimeresurus

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    I swear some people would tell you not to keep a safety pin because it could stab you. It's a spider people...

    And a cool looking one at that!
     
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    A few pics of her first feed with me, was really cool to watch, she's so quick!
     

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    We used to keep them as kids in big coffee jars upside down, used to live on the fridge were we could see but not touch. Used to feed them big house flys when we caught them.

    With the jar being upside down it kept us from destroying their webs and any poo or food scraps that dropped could be thrown in the bin.

    They are a very good looking spider, not one to mess with though.

    Now i just keep them outside where they eat all the outside bugs, spiders are great until they get in behind your car mirrors.

    Rick
     
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    Congrats on the new addition! Keep your fingers out of her way and you'll be fine :D she's gorgeous (even for a creepy spider lol)


    Oh god, the mirrors! Our driveway has big bottle brush next to it all full of 'creepy crawlies'. Every time I evict one from behind my mirror another takes it's place (or maybe one persistent one?!). Every so often one gets into the car and I get a face full of web as I get in :/
     
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    As with all Venomous Arachnids if you respect what can happen when a mistake is made you will be ok, if i might make a small suggestion with your housing of the pretty girl it will be alot easier to keep things clean if you cut a lateral slot across the bottom front of the click clack and then make a aluminium tray to slide in and out so that as she rejects the husks of prey to the floor you can slide the tray out and remove it without disturbing her web, also as suggested earlier you need to create an overhang for her web or the web will be broken every time you open the lid, i can tell you from personal experience that everytime you break her web she will sulk for days and sometimes just die from hunger. I have kept Red Backs for up to 18 months so they are not just a short term project, also don't try and keep a colony unless you can offer each 1 at least 1/2 a cubic meter. :) ........................Ron
     
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    I have kept several over the years. Had 8 at one point all in separate containers. There a lot of fun! Very quick, beautiful and entertaining. I think my favorite spider to keep was a Sydney funnel Web I found at my step dad's when I was in my early teens. Now they are fast and can be nasty. One day I'll convince my other half to let me start keeping them again :p

    What! You actually have safety pins! Your nuts! Those things can mess you up! :p
     
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    Cheers, Ron. :)
    How do I make an over hang?
     
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    I found the best way to create an overhang was to get some nice clean paddle pop sticks and create a barn like structure with some craft glue, you can be as out there as you want with it because it will become an integral part of the structure, you can even incorporate some LED's into it with a separate switch to check on her welfare without breaking the web. :) ..........................Ron
     

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