petition to stop live animal skinning

[Wednesday]

That is sick......
I knew that China had little regard for rights and what not... but I had no idea that it had been pushed to that extent... I signed the petition and then made the rest of my family do it...not that they protested....

 

[mrillusion]

yea this is just sick and must stop i signed the petition and if want to be able to make your own petitions please support my idea for APS at http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/feature-requests/my-new-idea-91065/page-2
thanks.

 

[bundybear]

I like beef tho..

yeh so do i, just finished a big hangover cure of bacon, chops, eggs and fried tomato!, even worked in a slaughter house and butcher shops too, so i'm not disagreeing with the humane killing of animals for meat.
google Halal, it is a particular style of slaughter that with out a doubt prolonges the process and causes considerable pain to the animal.
basically the jugulars in the animals throats are cut/pierced and the animal is alllowed to bleed out whilst it is still concious. one of the key components of a halal slaughter is the animal can not be rendered uncoucious.
in a domestic slaughtehouse, animal are stunned and renedered unconcious before being bled out.

 

[Carpetcleaner]

I didn't watch the video, but I did sign the petition. The picture on the bottom of the screen was bad enough.
What on earth would they skin them alive for? Could they not humanely kill them first? Is there a reason for doing it while they are still alive?
I ahve heard that people that work as slaughterers in abbatoirs can't do it for more than a couple of years because depression kicks in and messes with their heads, killing all those animals for the meat trade, so what does it do to these people? Do they not suffer long term psychological effects from it? Maybe they are not human?!?!?!

 

[bundybear]

I ahve heard that people that work as slaughterers in abbatoirs can't do it for more than a couple of years because depression kicks in and messes with their heads, killing all those animals for the meat trade, so what does it do to these people? Do they not suffer long term psychological effects from it? Maybe they are not human?!?!?!

nothing (twitch, cough, stumble) wrong me (twitch, twitch):lol:
dunno about that, i know fellas who are now in their late 30's and have worked in slaughterhouses since they were sixteen. guess it depends on the individual personalties.

 

[Shannon]

Thanks for posting Nat. I saw this video quite a while ago and had it on my Myspace page until I left. It disturbed me for a very long time. Obviously I signed the petition and others like it. I'm glad you are helping to bring this cruelty to public knowledge - a change in perception of animals and their apparent 'role' in life needs to change for future generations.

Seeing this video is one of the reasons I so proudly wear my 'MEAN PEOPLE WEAR FUR' t-shirt on my profile page. They're available on the PETA website along with many others.

While I would never condemn others for their choices I personally am vegetarian. Ignorance is bliss and I know many Australians would like to think our livestock endure humane killing in the production of meat but this simply is not the case. Often it's not the killing that is the worst part but the torturous life they endure in the lead-up. There are many farmers/products who take pride in caring for their animals and disregard the 'factory farming' approach that is so inhumane. If you're a meat eater I encourage you to support these farmers instead.

Once I became educated on the subject - that was that. I know many people would rather not know, however if you do want to understand the reality of how such products are produced then learn the facts and base your decisions on that rather than wishful thinking. Even us 'civilized' countries still have a long way to go with animals rights.

 

[Carpetcleaner]

I totally appreciate what you are saying Shannon, but I still can't bring myself to watch the video.

 

[jessb]

Personally, I refuse to eat Chinese food or at a Chinese restaurant ever again in my life because of their disgusting lack of animal rights.

You're not serious are you? This bit is a joke right? :?



I agree with the fact that animal cruelty is horrific, but everyone needs to take a step back and realise that most Chinese (particularly rural) live in very poor conditions themselves - an animal represents food in a country where famines which killed millions aren't in the distant past but are in living memory. When human life is reasonably cheap, then animal life is even cheaper.

It is easy to be high and mighty when we have plenty of food, good education, a strong welfare system and a reliable, democratic government, but try to just condemn the action rather than making racist comments about a culture that is a polar opposite to our own. By claiming that every culture that is different to our own is 'barbaric' or 'uncivilised' we are just buying into the American rhetoric that whatever isn't Western democracy is inherently 'evil'. And look where that has got us so far!!!

 

[jasontini]

Something i found in the web abt halal slaughtering..
http://www.geocities.com/mutmainaa/food/halal_slaughter.html

 

[Christopher]

Well said Jessb

 

[bundy_zigg]

You're not serious are you? This bit is a joke right? :?



I agree with the fact that animal cruelty is horrific, but everyone needs to take a step back and realise that most Chinese (particularly rural) live in very poor conditions themselves - an animal represents food in a country where famines which killed millions aren't in the distant past but are in living memory. When human life is reasonably cheap, then animal life is even cheaper.

It is easy to be high and mighty when we have plenty of food, good education, a strong welfare system and a reliable, democratic government, but try to just condemn the action rather than making racist comments about a culture that is a polar opposite to our own. By claiming that every culture that is different to our own is 'barbaric' or 'uncivilised' we are just buying into the American rhetoric that whatever isn't Western democracy is inherently 'evil'. And look where that has got us so far!!!

I agree with you in some respects, but even educated chinese dont think animals are worth anything! And if we just always say "ahh its there culture there is nothing wrong with them keeping to their traditions" then we are by far worse than they are! They are a country that live in fear, are treated like dirt by their rulers and have a ****ty existance - that is why it is important for the rest of the world to say ENOUGH!! and try to help change their ways.
Do you think their cculture is not barbaric?
Deep fried(live) turtles?
Baby chickens boiled in the shell just before they hatch
Snakes slit open enough for the heart to be queezed out(alive) still pumping
why the need to do things so cruel?

 

[bundy_zigg]

Thanks for posting Nat. I saw this video quite a while ago and had it on my Myspace page until I left. It disturbed me for a very long time. Obviously I signed the petition and others like it. I'm glad you are helping to bring this cruelty to public knowledge - a change in perception of animals and their apparent 'role' in life needs to change for future generations.

Seeing this video is one of the reasons I so proudly wear my 'MEAN PEOPLE WEAR FUR' t-shirt on my profile page. They're available on the PETA website along with many others.

While I would never condemn others for their choices I personally am vegetarian. Ignorance is bliss and I know many Australians would like to think our livestock endure humane killing in the production of meat but this simply is not the case. Often it's not the killing that is the worst part but the torturous life they endure in the lead-up. There are many farmers/products who take pride in caring for their animals and disregard the 'factory farming' approach that is so inhumane. If you're a meat eater I encourage you to support these farmers instead.

Once I became educated on the subject - that was that. I know many people would rather not know, however if you do want to understand the reality of how such products are produced then learn the facts and base your decisions on that rather than wishful thinking. Even us 'civilized' countries still have a long way to go with animals rights.

Good on you Shannon!!!, if we all change just a few things it will change the big picture(even if it is slowly). I am a meat eater - but purchase free range eggs & farm produce(chicken is all I eat). I am guilty of supporting things I shouldnt have but atleats I am trying
Thanks you to everyone who signed!!
Nat

 

[xycom]

The practices viewed in the video are not necesary, some cultures use barbaric ways because they need too; To some degree. I've read about the locals in PNG going on a long trip (in a canoe) with a pig brought along for food. The pig had hot coals rubbed in it's eyes so it can't run away and then along the way limbs are cut off to eat. The pig was kept alive so the meat didn't go off in the tropical heat. I don't agree with these practices either but they do this for a reason. I've skinned small animals like rabbits and it's not a difficult task when they are dead and gutted. I have also watched a friend skin goats and it's not really that difficult.

These barbaric cultures need to be educated about the ethics of what they are doing.


The book mentioned was "Throwim way leg" by Tim Flannery. Highly recomended


Per

 

[Boney]

that video is horrific , but this is happening in australia to some extent on slaughter floors accross australia ive worked on one floor in the past . where they have to kill a cow every 30 seconds so there is no gap in the chain . one day a rep from maccers came in to check on the whole humainly killed thing and see what was going on . as maccers say they will only buy humainly killed animals . i can tell you there was that many gaps in the chain when they had to do it properly for a hour gaps up to 6 minutes, there was gaps in the chain after nearly everyone . . ive seen cows getting skinned by a hide puller still mooing . . cows stabbed in the eyes going up the race . my point is it happens in australia , what do you do if you want to eat and you need a job ?

 

[ryanharvey1993]

I have no problem with them killing cats and dogs at all, but skinning them alive is horrible and no animal deserves that. signing a petition isn't gonna stop this from happening either

 

[christo]

Signed.

You can do more than simply sign the petition, as someone said, we know which countries do this, well in that case boycott everything to do with that country and tell your friends why you are doing. Personally, I refuse to eat Chinese food or at a Chinese restaurant ever again in my life because of their disgusting lack of animal rights.

I would think that 99% of Chinese restaurants in Australia would be owned by Australians who happen to have been born in China. Punishing them for what is happening in the country of their birth makes no sense at all.

 

[cockney red]

that video is horrific , but this is happening in australia to some extent on slaughter floors accross australia ive worked on one floor in the past . where they have to kill a cow every 30 seconds so there is no gap in the chain . one day a rep from maccers came in to check on the whole humainly killed thing and see what was going on . as maccers say they will only buy humainly killed animals . i can tell you there was that many gaps in the chain when they had to do it properly for a hour gaps up to 6 minutes, there was gaps in the chain after nearly everyone . . ive seen cows getting skinned by a hide puller still mooing . . cows stabbed in the eyes going up the race . my point is it happens in australia , what do you do if you want to eat and you need a job ?

Well, for sanitys sake, you dont do "THAT"..........................

 

[Pythonking]

saw this thread when it started finally watched the video and yea what can I say.... they have no decency at all..

 

[Boney]

Well, for sanitys sake, you dont do "THAT"..........................

mate if you can give me a job in a plant nursery or something i would rather do that for $1000 a week . but yeah i got out of there and the things i cut up these days are well and truely dead . thank god !!

 

[ryanharvey1993]

is everyone angry because they cruelly killed the cats and dogs or is it because they are killing cats and dogs. there is nothing wrong with killing a cat or dog, its the same as us killing cows and chickens and sheep and kangaroos for food.