blonde macS PLEASE HELP

[jiemoulin]

I'm not sorry for saying for saying this but IMO an 18 month old child couldn't care less what bloody day it is and she wouldn't give a damn when she got her present.

That is a ridiculous excuse for getting an animal especially a reptile.

You silly person I have seen spotteds for $180 that are feeding well , why the hell does it have to be a "blonde" if it is for a child who will have no real idea for at least 10 years????

And as Disasterpiece said "BUT you have to consider the snake. " Your daughter will be happy with a $20 soft toy.

i am getting the snake for my daughter to grow up with, OBVIOUSLY she wont care at 18months but the whole idea is to have it as a family pet, and WHEN she is old enough it will be hers. we want them to grow up together its more mine and my husbands but we are the introducing the idea toher, and yes kiss my *** my daughter is actually very advanced for her age and really has a liking to reptiles, look i didnt ask fo you critisim i just wanted a bit of advice,
and i am not someone who would get a snake fr the wrong reasons we have been planning a snake long before our daughter was born,

if u know of macs for 180 PLEASE let me know, i am not an expert on buying snakes or prices.

 

[chrisso81]

Just tell the seller that you are more than happy to buy the snake but you want to wait until it has developed a good feeding history, I would want any hatchy I bought to have had at least 3-4 unnassisted feeds, if not more. If the seller is so desperate to unload the thing, don't be the sucker that buys it. Hatchy season is upon us, soon there'll be hundreds of mac hatchies floating about, with great feeding history.

Everything that has been said here has been said with the welfare of the animal in mind, and so that you have a positive experience with your first snake 'pet'. Just be patient, the snakes gonna live for a hell of a long time, so a few weeks waiting at the start is not going to kill you.

 

[jiemoulin]

You work with snakes in some kind of advanced setting? :lol: oh god.

if u actualy read what i wrote properly, i said i work with snakes that are in an entire habitat probably the size of your house, and its all controled climates was ment to say a bit to advanced for what someone would need for home.
ahhh and its called wildlife world at darling harbour, so yeah i would say that they have slightyy mor advanced systems than ur pezzy heat light and mat!!!!

 

[jiemoulin]

Just tell the seller that you are more than happy to buy the snake but you want to wait until it has developed a good feeding history, I would want any hatchy I bought to have had at least 3-4 unnassisted feeds, if not more. If the seller is so desperate to unload the thing, don't be the sucker that buys it. Hatchy season is upon us, soon there'll be hundreds of mac hatchies floating about, with great feeding history.

Everything that has been said here has been said with the welfare of the animal in mind, and so that you have a positive experience with your first snake 'pet'. Just be patient, the snakes gonna live for a hell of a long time, so a few weeks waiting at the start is not going to kill you.

thanks for not trying tomake me feel like im stupid or something, i agree with everthing you say, and aove all the snakes welfare is the most important thing, i would much prefer an older mac but am willing to take on a hatchie, and now that u say it ur right bout the other bredder probably really keen to get rid of it,

will take ur advice and sit on looking for one with a better feeding history

if u know of any good macs let me know.

 

[Jason]

jiemoulin- i think you're taking some of the coments the wrong way. everyone is trying to help but simply put, you shouldnt get a snake that has had 1 feed, nor should yoyou believe that you have te experience to get it going well. you may get the one animal that is a great feeder with no problems etc and it may feed and grow well and it would be a good move, BUT what if you get the one of few in a clutch that is nothing short of a pain in the but to get feeding, i have had countless hatchies start feeding but go off food for months after 3 or 4 feeds. unless you have had hatchies from that age that are non-feeding you really dont understand what you are potentially getting. best of luck with it, i understand its exciting. people are trying to give you best advice they can i hope you take it and not rush. in a couple of months there will be countless macs for sale in sydney...more then you could poke a stick at actually easily over 1000 i reckon so if you want a good problem free good feeder at a good price just hold out another month or so and you'll have that many to pick from you wont know what to do withyourself. dont make the mistake of jumping at the first one you see.

good luck.

 

[Colin]

I know there can be exceptions to rules but generally, hatchlings won't eat at all until after their first shed which usually doesn't happen until they are about 10 to 14 days old. Then my hatchies didn't start eating until another two weeks on. Obviously the yolk from the egg is enough to sustain them for this time. So I really doubt that it has even had one feed.

exactly right.. most dont feed until after their first shed but some will feed beforehand. even so, you would be getting a snake barely out of the egg with only one feed under its belt (if that)

maybe it might be better to get a hatchie thats a few months old with a definite good feeding history than this one?

personally I really dont agree with breeders selling such young animals to people that dont have a great deal of experience keeping them. It would make sense to me for a breeder to get the animals feeding really well and in good condition before letting it go to its new home, especially if the buyer is new to snakes. that way there is a great chance the buyer will have no problems with it and the snake will thrive..

 

[Twin_Rivers]

Go for it!! You know better than anyone in this forum if you have the experience to raise such a young animal, and you should have a excellent support network with other reptile keepers from your work and a herp vet that you trust, if you honestly believe you have the skills and knowledge to raise a hatchling go for it, but if you have any doubts then wait until you find an animal with a history that you are confident with.

Good luck and i hope you, your husband and daughter have many great years with your new snake.

 

[jiemoulin]

go for it!! You know better than anyone in this forum if you have the experience to raise such a young animal, and you should have a excellent support network with other reptile keepers from your work and a herp vet that you trust, if you honestly believe you have the skills and knowledge to raise a hatchling go for it, but if you have any doubts then wait until you find an animal with a history that you are confident with.

Good luck and i hope you, your husband and daughter have many great years with your new snake.

thankyou, !!!

 

[jiemoulin]

jiemoulin- i think you're taking some of the coments the wrong way. everyone is trying to help but simply put, you shouldnt get a snake that has had 1 feed, nor should yoyou believe that you have te experience to get it going well. you may get the one animal that is a great feeder with no problems etc and it may feed and grow well and it would be a good move, BUT what if you get the one of few in a clutch that is nothing short of a pain in the but to get feeding, i have had countless hatchies start feeding but go off food for months after 3 or 4 feeds. unless you have had hatchies from that age that are non-feeding you really dont understand what you are potentially getting. best of luck with it, i understand its exciting. people are trying to give you best advice they can i hope you take it and not rush. in a couple of months there will be countless macs for sale in sydney...more then you could poke a stick at actually easily over 1000 i reckon so if you want a good problem free good feeder at a good price just hold out another month or so and you'll have that many to pick from you wont know what to do withyourself. dont make the mistake of jumping at the first one you see.

good luck.

thanks i was getting a but upset cause i just asked a few questions and got hammed by people who dont know me telling me i dont have experience, wen i have worked with animals and repi's and snakes for years plus got my diploma in vetinary nursing and animal husbandry, and so does my hubby,
i absolutly think ur right and will sit on the mac untill i get ne a few months older, i know everyone is just concerned bout snakes welfare but as an animal handeler and worker i would never let even a ant get hurt, let alone take on any animal i wasnt capable of caring for,

let me know if u came acrosss any at a good price and feeding well. thanks again
kaira and jie

 

[Wench]

my mates 3year old daughter killed his 14 month old spotted.
if you know heaps about snakes etc from work, then wouldn't you know that it needs to be in a clickclack while its a hatchy and doesn't need a globe??
meh.... goodluck with everything.

 

[daniel1234]

Yes all of the above. I love my childrens is 10 months old, still a little thing although he has grown alot. A few months will not make alot of difference to the "growing up with snakes" experiance but it will make a massive difference to eliminating potential problems with a new snake. My childrens was 6 months old when we got him, and was due for feeding but didn't (possibly due to not seeing it) but fed three days later when we wiggled it in front of him, and he has only missed feeds during sheds since, he is a right little pig!

My MD had shed once and I had feeding problems due to lack of knowledge/wrong advice, but watching APS helped (did not post as plenty of newbies had same issues). Thing is it was just a temp thing but it does scare you a bit when your thinking "this is a baby animal it's gotta eat, oh no, ahhh, some one help it's been 2 weeks already!"

Hey always wondered, and may be relative here, Do hatchies need to be "taught" to eat thawed/killed prey? I suspect that if live feeds were not illegal getting hatchies feeding would be easier?

 

[jiemoulin]

yeah i do know that but as i have never had hatchies at work as we dont have a breeding program in place for them yet and the snakes we have are very big and old, they were there before i was and we have not yet had any new ones to the ffamily,what is this ia critisim forum or snake one, i want to make sure i am doing everything right and have been told many conflicting things so i want to see what everyone else thhinks is that a crime to want a bit of help, and i have never had blonde macs in my care befor. so thanks for the advice and critisim but i am not the novice u think i am and i do belive that at some stage u wuld have been learning bout stuff and would not have appreciated people being a holes about asking a simple question!!!!!

 

[Twin_Rivers]

it seems to me that There are many people on this forum who feel they the only experts around, and think anybody new to keeping herps as pets are novice with no knowledge at all. Most responsible animal handlers do a lot of research on keepign the species of animal before getting that animal. I joined this forum in the hope that maybe I would be able to benefit from the people who have more practical experience then me.
With every question posed on here there are many people who just wish to bag out the poser of that question, then argue that we are just trying to better the hobby, i can't see how bagging out newcomers and making them feel stupid.
There are many people on here who are willing to offer the right advice but scrolling through pages of crap make picking the honest answers hard.
Most answers too are never given with an explaination as why they do or do not use something, and a I don't use and I know everything attitude seems to exist.
Jiemoulin asked a simple question on heating for hatchlings yet has got an answer of use a heat mat with very little explaination and told that due to inexperience and being a novice you must be stupid not to get a hatchling even though it sounds they have an excellent support network are experienced in handling reptiles and confident that they could suceed in raising a hatchling, why does everyone need to be so untrusting when someone says they can handle it why not believe them and give them the support and advice they need to do the best by the animal?

 

[Twin_Rivers]

AND another thing, 'go back and search the forums its all been discussed before", so no one on here ever gets any new information reads any new research, or conducts any of their own 'experiments', that little bit of advice may be the difference between a healthy animal and a superbly healthy animal, and that bit of advice may be only new a fresh bit of advice from latest study or a simple observation not noticed by an experienced keeper before, why can't people just give the advice required with an explanantion?

 

[Twin_Rivers]

*breathes in and out*
sorry

 

[Twin_Rivers]

didn't mean to sound rude

 

[Twin_Rivers]

will shut up now

 

[jiemoulin]

yeah i do know that but as i have never had hatchies at work as we dont have a breeding program in place for them yet and the snakes we have are very big and old, they were there before i was and we have not yet had any new ones to the ffamily,what is this ia critisim forum or snake one, i want to make sure i am doing everything right and have been told many conflicting things so i want to see what everyone else thhinks is that a crime to want a bit of help, and i have never had blonde macs in my care befor. so thanks for the advice and critisim but i am not the novice u think i am and i do belive that at some stage u wuld have been learning bout stuff and would not have appreciated people being a holes about asking a simple question!!!!!

 

[Bearded_Lady]

Neil Cass (NCHERPS on this site) has bred a few clutches of blonde macs this season. You should contact him to enquire about a getting a blonde mac. Reputable breeder who would give you all the right advice.

 

[beeman]

The main thing that i have picked up here is that they were going to buy a 7 day old hatchie. Now at 7 days old the hatchie will only barley have had its first shed and there
is an extreemly slim chance though not likley it may have just taken its first feed. Now for someone who has only worked in a place that dosent have a breeding programme and has only mature snakes to be looked after its a huge ask to try and take on a hatchie Anteresia
of 7 days old. They are amoungst the hardest of our pythons to get to feed and to get feeding regularly.
The person thats selling hatchies so young need to take a more responsable approach and not sell hatchies that dont have an established husbandry record!
While its a good thing that research is being done into what is needed to keep a snake
there is no need to rush into something that you may regret to early.
As has been stated there will be a hell of a lot of established hatchies to choose from in the comming months, Be patient and make a sound decision not a rushed one