America civilized

[waruikazi]

OK that is a rainbow boa, they are a semi aquatic snake and would need to be kept in a humid/damp environment hence the steamyness.

I can understand why you don't like it and i have no problem with that. But to me for short periods of time i can't see those enclosures being anymore detrimental to a snakes health than handling them or packing them into a calico bag.

 

[Frozenmouse]

OK that is a rainbow boa, they are a semi aquatic snake and would need to be kept in a humid/damp environment hence the steamyness.

I can understand why you don't like it and i have no problem with that. But to me for short periods of time i can't see those enclosures being anymore detrimental to a snakes health than handling them or packing them into a calico bag.

pretty sure they are kept like that for the duration of the expo .
the steamed snake is a rainbow hybrid.

 

[kupper]

i think someone is itching for an arguement , may not be in your oppinion the right way but i am sure the americans would not be putting some of there top shelf stock ( yes top shelf as thats all they show at expos) in any situation that may be detrimental to there health

 

[Retic]

I have never seen anyone keep snakes like that at an expo before so maybe it might be just a couple of breeders that do it out of all of those that attended, so perhaps rather than tar everyone with the same brush be a little selective. Maybe all Americans think we all shoot kangaroos and cut the ears off puppies.

 

[Pujols]

I have to agree with Gordo here... I have seen a huge olive python happily enter a box which would be just as cramped as some of these...

 

[Frozenmouse]

i think someone is itching for an arguement , may not be in your oppinion the right way but i am sure the americans would not be putting some of there top shelf stock ( yes top shelf as thats all they show at expos) in any situation that may be detrimental to there health

It is not a health issue.
As i have heard before you could probably breed carpet pythons in a bag in your cupboard but i dont think it would be considered it acceptable.

 

[RELLIK81]

i think for transport from breeder to home is ok but to be kept like that for a day or 2 or 3 show would be in my book cruel......
short term no worries but not for a reptile show
also most shows are for breeders to show off their offspring in its best light...how is this showing the animal at its best....to me it isnt....gotta be able to see it moving around...not bundled up into a ball

 

[Retic]

I think the issue is not whether the practise is acceptable or not but the fact that rather than point out the fact that you personally don't like what a very small number of people do we get the typical xenophobic thread title.

 

[ryanharvey1993]

I dont see anything wrong with it, nice pic of the albino being eaten we are not so different from america so why do we always have a go at them?

 

[Retic]

Yes a very good question, I refer you to my signature

 

[Serpentes]

Thanks for posting those Pics, Dabool, a real eye-opener.

 

[Frozenmouse]

would it be acceptable for the vendors in an australian reptile show to stand around and watch a mulga snake eat an albino darwin carpet.

 

[ShaneBlack]

would it be acceptable for the vendors in an australian reptile show to stand around and watch a mulga snake eat an albino darwin carpet.

Not in public anyway.

 

[kupper]

It is not a health issue.
As i have heard before you could probably breed carpet pythons in a bag in your cupboard but i dont think it would be considered it acceptable.

you may not do it the next door neighbour may not do it but if the housing arrangement is not to the snakes detriment then what is the issue?

 

[ryanharvey1993]

would it be acceptable for the vendors in an australian reptile show to stand around and watch a mulga snake eat an albino darwin carpet.

would make a good pic :lol: only difference between feeding a snake to a snake and a mouse to a snake is the snake cost a lot more

 

[elapid66]

nothing wrong with that at all

 

[Pike01]

I think keeping them like that might be less stressfull than if kept in a large enclosure,I know my carpets spend most of their time curled up in a small box like that....on their own accord.

 

[Jason]

that cobra needs a bigger meal than that!!

thats exactly what i was thinking...haha

 

[nonamesleft]

I suppose it's no smaller or no more cramped then a hide? My snakes can spend more then 24 hours in their hides with out coming out! I think its just the initial shock of it! i dont agree with the live feeding tho!

 

[diamondgal79]

come on he could have squeezed more jungles in those boxes if he tried, where was the effort!