my staffy is having pups....

[noah07]

their not even pitbull, pitbulls and american staffys r 2 completely different breeds if u do your research u all obviously dont know about them it is illegal to breed pitbulls in nsw not american staffys alot of people make the same mistake as you all have and besides they are a far from danf=gerous breed of dog they r one of the most gentle and loyal breed of dog their is. i dunno why i have to keep defending myself for.....as i said u dont know me or what i do so who r u all to judge!!!

 

[noah07]

There is no such thing as a dangerous dog breed !!!!!
just bad owners !!!!!!! personally I own a pitt and she is the most loving loyal dog u could ever meet !!!! people that belive that staffys and pitt's are dangerous are in
denial and prob have never had any experince with such a loving loyal breed
so ask your selves this once u band staffys and pitts what breed will u want to band next ????? get real !!!
dobermans , german sheepards , rott wheelers ?????? Bad owners are the real problem not the breed !!!!!!!

exactly thanx mate!!

 

[noah07]

 

[clouded_mind]

their not even pitbull, pitbulls and american staffys r 2 completely different breeds

Actually they are the same species friend.
Amstaffs were bred from cur pittbulls, those that showed cowardness or a lack of hard bite etc and were no good for fighting.
They were eventually accepted by registries & kennel clubs and were then linebred to standard for the showring rather then the fighting pit.

 

[thals]

Aww what a gorgeous litter, congrats Noah I for myself own a very sweet loving pit bull and she has one of the best and most stable temperaments I've even seen in a dog before, and I've had quite a few different dogs of various breeds, each a helluva lot more trouble than she's ever been, so I agree, they're only bad owners - not dogs/breeds, discrimination solely based on a breed is stupid, unfair and should be outlawed!

 

[thals]

I believe way back earlier on in the line, pits and amstaffs of course originated from the same dogs, and many dogs were even dual registered as both pits and amstaffs, but as time went on, the lines between the two became further and further apart via selective breeding/breeding for specific traits, pit breeders breeding select dogs for their gameness and such, and amstaffs were, and still are, very much the show dog variety of the two we see today. Also most amstaffs these days tend to be of a larger and stockier build.

 

[ohhsweetness]

congrats on the puppies they are adorable hope they all go to loving homes good luck with them should post a pic of mum

 

[ThatTyeGuy]

6 weeks is perfectly fine! I got my pup at 6 weeks. Their dogs. It doesn't matter. My dog is well socialised, she's well trained and she's just in general a great dog From 6 weeks to 8 weeks, they grow so much! They only stay puppies for about a month, get them while you can

youve got to be kidding me...

great looking litter noah, some real stunners in that lot.

 

[Aiigaru]

TheTyeGuy, just ignore her -.- People that comment who have no idea will eventually learn to not comment.


OP, according to the law, they are the same breed. Under the BSL, pit bulls and amstaffs are "dangerous breeds". Do your research.

 

[anntay]

congrates mate on the bubs they all look healthy and big way to go. my boy is 3yrs now and i've had him since he was 5 1/2 weeks. i agree with Sholmes any breed can be bad if not treated right. i feel the worst dogs are the bloody rat looking ones.

 

[falana1]

 

[falana1]

no dogs are dangers it just owners ..i have two extra friendly eng an am staffy ..ppl need to stop put bad names on dogs start blaming stuip owners that dont give sh..only use them to make there self look good..

 

[Wally]

TheTyeGuy, just ignore her -.- People that comment who have no idea will eventually learn to not comment.


OP, according to the law, they are the same breed. Under the BSL, pit bulls and amstaffs are "dangerous breeds". Do your research.

This statement only applies to owners of Amstaffs in QLD. No other state or territory has added Amstaffs to BSL. And to the best of my knowledge the court ruling that brought about this situation in QLD is currently under appeal.

 

[dangles]

no dogs are dangers it just owners ..i have two extra friendly eng an am staffy ..ppl need to stop put bad names on dogs start blaming stuip owners that dont give sh..only use them to make there self look good..

if you know why so many breeds are classified as dangerous its because of the potential damage thay can cause from 1 bite. Yes maltese terriers have broken the top 10 dog attack list but they will never be deemed dangerous cause they barely scratch the surface when they bite. FWIW i own english staffies that i bought from a registered breeder with full papers. I have seen the dangerous sides of my dogs and i am a responsible pet owner(puppy preschool/obedience/socialising) but when they are in the home territory they are dangerous to those they dont know

 

[MrSpike]

Barely scratch the surface when they bite? Same breed?

What about the fatal attack on a child from a pocket dog a few years back in perth, did you hear of that on the news? No. Why? Because no one cares about the actions of a small breed. If it was a medium to large breed or a "pit type" dog everyone would be up in arms causing a big fuss demanding death.

It's good to see the same sort of ignorance I get from people towards me being a reptile and spider keeper, I get for owning a politically incorrect breed of dog. No, APBT and Amstaffs ARE NOT the same breed. Try and compare the determination and willingness to please, athletic ability and courage of an APBT to any other breed and I think you'll be hard pressed to find a dog comparable to a true APBT.

At the end of the day it isn't the dog, it's the owner. Socialisation, training and obediance all play a major part in a stable dog.

"BSL never, Pitbulls forever"

 

[DragonKells]

My hope is not to fuel the fire but douse it...

I found this statement on a webstite for pet lovers (the website itself is a bit fluffy but this made sense)...

"All dogs can be potentially dangerous, however some dogs are more dangerous than others. Various types of breeds can be considerably stronger and larger than a person of average size. Training, socialization and proper care can make a significant impact, however some dogs are by years of breeding more aggressive."

In my opinion this covers what you guys are saying, it's the owner not the breed, but at the same time any animal can be unpredictable.

I myself was bitten repeatedly on the face by a Malteese terrier when i was 3, and all i can say is thank god it wasn't a pitbull. I came out with only minor scratches and bruising while it could have been a very different story. This said i have owned a pitbull and know plenty of people who still do and they are treasured family members =)

It all comes down to the owner and whether or not they understand the full potential of the breed they own and take the appropriate care needed.

I say congrats on the beautiful litter, and hope they find loving homes with people that have the right amount of common sense.

 

[wranga]

if you do your research on american staffies you will find that they originated from the pitbull, as the pitbull couldnt be registed and shown because of the bad name they had. so the american staffy was formed and registed as a new breed and was accepted as a show dog. so its alittle like a road and a street. both the same except for a name change

 

[Wally]

if you do your research on american staffies you will find that they originated from the pitbull, as the pitbull couldnt be registed and shown because of the bad name they had. so the american staffy was formed and registed as a new breed and was accepted as a show dog. so its alittle like a road and a street. both the same except for a name change

I believe recent DNA sequencing has found a marker that differentiates between the two breeds. This evidence will be presented as part of the appeal in the QLD case.

 

[captive_fairy]

Ive had a pitty and an am staff, and they are the best breeds...So loyal and great with kids...My pitty would come and check on me every 15 minutes when I was at home by myself...I'd hear her running around looking for me, and when she found me she would nudge me with her nose like she was making sure I was ok, and then leave...

 

[hypochondroac]

Fact is the kind of people who buy rottweilers, dobes i.e fierce looking breeds are usually the wrong kind of people, the dogs don't get properly trained or they get taught to be aggressive and if such a breed tears into somebody.. you'll hear about it. 80% of the aggressive dogs that i groom are small crossbreds but because their bite doesn't inflict serious damage it's not as concerning.

I'm glad pits are outlawed, atleast then it makes it harder for jerks who fight them to get their hands on the breed.

Amstaffs were recently registered as a breed for show along with the tibetan mastiffs and the tenterfield terrier, they really need to change the name though.. American English bull terrier hardly makes any sense.

As far as my opinion goes amstaffs and pits are both mixed breeds, too much variation in the 'breeds' to be pure, not like the english staffordshires where they can pump the same result out time after time.