Ackie With Mbd

[SamJxn]

I just acquired three yellow ridge tail from a local breeder about 6 days ago. Yesterday I noticed one of them lost the ability to move back legs and a quickly realised it must be mbd so i started treating it. I feed them crickets, mealworms and some veggies (but only had them 6 days). So today he started out the same but soon lost the ability to move at all. I rushed down to the vet and she diagnosed him with mbd as well. Now he is spending the night there getting treated with shots. He is just five weeks old. Clearly the breeder has not provided a suitable range of food for the guys considering the rapid deterioration. Anyone familiar with this disorder and outcomes? I just want to now if its too late and too costly to help the guy?

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[Stompsy]

From my experience, lots and lots of calcium injected into mice/rats usually combats mbd. But in saying that, I've never seen one quite as bad as you're describing. Good luck, I hope someone else can give you advice and I hope the little guy pulls through.

 

[pinefamily]

It's very unusual for one that young to have MBD. I can't help but wonder about the health of the parents, especially the mother.
It's hard to say whether it will pull through or not, but at that young an age it is possible. What was the vet's thoughts?

 

[SamJxn]

@Stompsy, no I've never seen this far either nor read about it. @pinefamily, I agree. There must have been hidden issues with the mother. I feel naive considering the guy told me that only 4 out of 15 eggs made it is some sort of indicator but again not totally uncommon. The vet was not too optimistic said if he makes progress over night then there is a chance but if not then its not very likely.

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[Wally]

Fair chance they're older than five weeks but just haven't been fed adequately.

 

[pinefamily]

As well as the treatment from the vet, do as Stompsy has suggested and dose any food with calcium.

 

[pinefamily]

Fair chance they're older than five weeks but just haven't been fed adequately.

Good point Wally.

 

[SamJxn]

Great point you made there Wally! The other two are doing fine (so far) so might or might not be true but i have started a major calcium enriched treatment program with the other two and if he pulls through I'll give the same. At the moment I'm just quite anxious and hoping for someone to tell me that majority of cases recover when treated with injections etc.

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[Stompsy]

I've seen a few and they've all survived and thrived into adulthood. I hope your guys have the same fate.

 

[SamJxn]

I've seen a few and they've all survived and thrived into adulthood. I hope your guys have the same fate.

Good to hear! I'll let yous know what the vets verdict is tomorrow

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[SamJxn]

*Update So called the vet yoday and was told hes not making any progress. My option were to take him home and continue treating and forcefeeding indefinitely or put down. Considering the amount of time it would take to heal he would most likely never regain ability to move around so i unfortunately had to have him put down.

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[pinefamily]

I'm sorry to hear that. Have you been in touch with the breeder?

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[SamJxn]

No not yet. I will call him when i settle down. Atm I'm just thinking everything over of what he said. He told me ackies do gine breeding with siblings and i didn't think much of it but could this be what he has done and if so then could this be what has caused some sort of mutated gene so this lizard is more prone to get mbd?

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[SamJxn]

He stands by that they were five weeks and he fed plenty of calcium but no uv. The parents have never had issues either. He doesn't believe its mbd. I'll go with the vets word. This will just go to the x files unsolved mysteries.

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[pinefamily]

From your description it sounds like MBD, but without seeing him it's hard to be certain. Was the vet a reptile vet?

 

[SamJxn]

Yes, a very experienced reptile specialist

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[Bushfire]

Given everything above, Im sure it would of been MBD and that the whole clutch probably would of been stuffed. In my view you wouldnt have had it long enough to be of your doing.
Most likely the female when she was gravid didnt get enough Vit D3 to process the calcium in her diet, its an inexperienced breeders mistake.
I would ask for a refund and supply the vet report, if he is honest he should acknowledge it and pay up and learn a thing or two for next time.