Does my Frog have a disease? URGENT HELP!

[RedEyeGirl]

Hi my green tree frog has browny patches all over her skin. I will try and get pics of her! she is all weak but is still eating. ( she ate one cricket 5 mins ago) Please help. urgent help plz she was my first gtf! plz
Tara:cry:

 

[GeckoJosh]

If the patches do not look like the normal colour changes they have then go to a vet asap, sounds like a bacterial or fungal problem.
Also PM sent

Good luck Gex

 

[RedEyeGirl]

These are the pics of her. She has had another cricket snice i first posted. PLEASE HELP!! Tara

 

[wasgij]

that does not look like normal colour change at all. I'd be getting her to a vet ASAP.

 

[RedEyeGirl]

We have called 2 vets, and we can not get her in till Friday. There is one up the road but doesn't specialise in reptiles and frogs. we have called 3 vets with more contacts coming wiith each phone call.
Tara

 

[rockstar_jones]

what are the temps?,it definately looks like something. Try raising the temps to 28 degrees or so in the meantime before you can see a vet.

 

[rockstar_jones]

Also, If you are not already a member, join frogs.org.au's forum and post your topic along with the photos on there, have been a member there for 5 years and there are some specialists on there that would have a fair idea just by looking at your photos as to the cause.

But definately raise temps, and i suggest a diluted betadine bath. mix 1:100 betadine to water and in a small takeaway style container fill so the frog will be able to sit in there while be able to easily breathe while still being well covered. Leave it in there for 5 minutes. It will probably aggitate the frog. Then get it to a vet asap.

Also from my experience any vet should be able to analyse a frogs stool and tell if there is an abnormal amount of bacteria in there from just looking at it under a microscope.Thus meaning it could be a bacterial problem. If its a bacterial related problem then baytril diluted to 12mg/ml (from memory) can be applied to the frog via 1 drop from a needle onto the frogs back daily.

Just my two cents.

Michael

 

[TassieHerper]

Nope def not normal, I would hesitate to go as far as to say it is the early signs of Cytrid but there are obviously other things to be taken into consideration as well.

If the frog has any of the following then you might be looking at Cytrid.

• have discoloured skin
• Be sloughing, or peeling, on the outside layers of its skin. This can vary from obvious peeling of skin (particularly on the feet), to a roughness of the frog's skin that you can barely see
• sit out in the open, not protecting itself by hiding
• be sluggish, and have no appetite
• Have its legs spread slightly away from itself, rather than keeping them tucked close to its body. In more extreme cases, the frog's body will be rigid, and its back legs will trail behind it.

Either way the discolouration shown in your little guy’s skin is not a good sign. a change from green to brown can be a sign of distress from diseases, handling, or a poor environment, possibly water contamination or contamination of the substrate.

 

[GeckoJosh]

I had a similar issue recently and I was told not to do a Betadine bath by Cairns Frog Hospital before diagnoses as it can make it harder to tell what your dealing with, good luck and contact those people tonight as they often will answer their emails late into the night

Gex

 

[RedEyeGirl]

Ok
we were told by the vet that it should be 25 degrees, but our heat mat doesnot have a temp gauge. We covered the tank as well as having the heat mat on. When i got up this morning some of her patches have faded and dissappeared although some are still remaining on her back, end of tailbone and her back legs. I personally don't want to give her a betadine bath-as i am a little scared.
Tara

 

[wasgij]

so was i when i had a white lip with an absys (spelling?) but as long as its only a 1 or 2% betadine solution it should be fine. but if your willing to wait and see if it clears up, by all means. good luck!

 

[frognut]

How is your frog today Tara?

 

[Nash1990]

In response to rockstar_jones comment that any vet could examine a frog stool: many vets many refuse to examine anything frog related as the terrible frog disease, the name of which i cant remember (Cyrtid??), is a major biological risk. So vets may not want to take the risk

 

[GeckoJosh]

Did the vet do any tests to see if it was a bacterial/fungal related problem, if not what did he say he thought the causes were?

Good luck Gex

 

[SammySnakes]

It's not that they do not want to take a biological risk, it's more that most vets really have no idea about the specialised area of amphibian health and medicine.
Chytrid fungus is found in most water systems around Sydney and is one of the easiest pathogens to sterilise for (ie. it dies when it dries out, or if temps get much above 30 degrees, or if its exposed to disinfectants of almost any kind etc etc).

In response to rockstar_jones comment that any vet could examine a frog stool: many vets many refuse to examine anything frog related as the terrible frog disease, the name of which i cant remember (Cyrtid??), is a major biological risk. So vets may not want to take the risk

 

[JAS101]

just out of interest what is the water temp at ? and can you take some pics of your enclosure ?

 

[Nash1990]

Hmm alright then.
We were told that it was a big deal when we did the frog topic at tafe.
But i'll take your word on it as i disagreed with a few things they had in the book about reptiles lol.

But don't wish to distract from the problem that this thread is about

It's not that they do not want to take a biological risk, it's more that most vets really have no idea about the specialised area of amphibian health and medicine.
Chytrid fungus is found in most water systems around Sydney and is one of the easiest pathogens to sterilise for (ie. it dies when it dries out, or if temps get much above 30 degrees, or if its exposed to disinfectants of almost any kind etc etc).

 

[frogboy77]

hi tara why is your frog all weird, give me a ring, have you told karen and marie, they might know what to do.

 

[RedEyeGirl]

Just an update...Fatty is going great...we took her to Heathcote vet clinic and we were given antibiotics and silver cream. It has worked like magic and her patches are so faded you have to look closely to see them. I hope they go away permanently...!!!

 

[JAS101]

Just an update...Fatty is going great...we took her to Heathcote vet clinic and we were given antibiotics and silver cream. It has worked like magic and her patches are so faded you have to look closely to see them. I hope they go away permanently...!!!

thats great , what did the vet say it was?