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[moosenoose]

P.P.S. My claim to fame is banging 4 cheerleaders in one night.

Now THAT, is a great effort! :lol: hehe

Nice little snake Pugs. I would have been stuck for IDing that one myself.

 

[indicus]

Ok Pike; i know very little about The Royal National Park or the picture your referring to....wasn't one of Allana's animals obliviously; which we are talking about....i think.
As for the picture your referring to...who "i'd it?".
The reason i ask is simple....can someone tell me exactly what is the difference between an intergrade and a pure diamond (yes i seen Pugsly's thread).....visual appearance?.... so it's that easy is it?
So any diamond that's odd in appearance; can be called an intergrade?....
I have been made aware of some often subtle differences that can help determine what's what.
Call me stupid; but i to can guess....or as i expressed; i must still be missing something.
Maybe one of you can tell me....please don't say; eg it has stripes....it's an intergrade; the blotch's etc etc etc.
What about subtle differences in behaviour?.... if any?
Oh by the way Mr B; forgive me for saying; but.....4 in one night?; sounds like the hundreds of diamonds story....:lol:
I appologise to Pugsly; for being apart of turning this thread into a debate on Diamonds.....wasn't my intention; just carried away i guess.....maybe if you are able find the time you could pm me any other info you have in regards to helping me understand......i dont live in Diamond country.....cheers and thanks .

 

[cockney red]

Absolutely priceless!!!:cry::lol:

 

[indicus]

Another intelligent and informative response from the Cockney..
thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on the subject with us.... :lol:

 

[pugsly]

Ill pm you Indy, no probs with ya at all. I actually think you are one of the most respected herpers in this country and don't wish to get into a slanging match with you.

As for the 'goose' bwana.

Again, you show me where I stated that mate. You wont be able to because I DIDNT, if the thread was back you would see it was the pig hunter from North Qld who made that comment. NOT me.

Have I photographed hundreds, yes, thats nothing special at all, but its still more than most I am confident in that.

Mr B 4 in one night hey, not bad at all! Shame they were all male though... ;-)

 

[MrBredli]

Mr B 4 in one night hey, not bad at all! Shame they were all male though... ;-)

 

[GSXR_Boy]

Now THAT, is a great effort! :lol: hehe
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Maybe not. He didn't say what they were cheering.
For all we know they could have been cheering on their mates at the local bingo club (jokes Mr B )

 

[pugsly]

"If you can't even identify a swamp snake"

What does it matter to you anyway? Your that bored you need to jump up and down just because I put an ID up?

When I saw this guy, (nearly ran him over) I had a couple of different guesses in my head, but wasn;t 100% so hence the thread.

But next time, just for you, Ill keep the ID threads to myself, that make you happy champ?

 

[MrBredli]

Now, now.. the boys down at the local Bowling Club do a good job of cheerleading. Granted their arthritis restricts their movement, but boy do they know how to use a pom pom! :lol:

 

[indicus]

Thanks kindly Pugsly for the infomation;
I look forward to hearing from you.
As for being one of the most respected herpers.......no mate; not at all;
as I have a lot to learn; as do most of us....thanks just the same
Maybe a few of us did get our wires crossed; if so i apologise;
as i also thought i remember reading a comment of the likes from you....
maybe it read you'd photographed 100's....either way;
it's the subject regarding to Diamonds and their locality that's of interest to me...
Cheers
PS.... nice swamp snake

 

[chip]

I am for one not an expert on Diamonds in any sense.
I believe what most fail to realise is; that twenty years ago (ok; give or take);
is that nobody was very successful at breeding Diamonds at all...including the yanks.
Well then you have it....all of a sudden they were being bred readily...why?
Simple they were crossed with carpets.

Do you have any idea who Bwana is?...or his knowledge on diamonds.quote]



The Diamond debate is a cloudy one at best, but there is no need for cheap shots. APS is a good site and it does not need bickering due to the fact that someone posted an ID question.

I think that you will find that experienced herps like Peter Krauss and Rex Stock were breeding PURE Diamonds in the late 80's and early 90's , and to say that two of the most respected herps in Australia were breeding hybrids.:lol:

I highly doubt it if many people do actually know who Bwana actually is.

Yes the infamous Brian Starkey has spent a lot of time in the field, right in the heart of Diamond country , so chances are he probably could go head to head with anyone on purity on them but there is no need for cheap shots.

The Diamond debate is a cloudy one at best, but there is no need for cheap shots. APS is a good site and it does not need bickering due to the fact that someone posted an ID question.

Chip.

 

[pugsly]

Im aware who he is.

I also am aware there is no need to jump up and down and take 'cheap shots' as you suggested.

Next time he can just keep his mouth closed.

 

[indicus]

I am for one not an expert on Diamonds in any sense.
I believe what most fail to realise is; that twenty years ago (ok; give or take);
is that nobody was very successful at breeding Diamonds at all...including the yanks.
Well then you have it....all of a sudden they were being bred readily...why?
Simple they were crossed with carpets.

Do you have any idea who Bwana is?...or his knowledge on diamonds.quote]



The Diamond debate is a cloudy one at best, but there is no need for cheap shots. APS is a good site and it does not need bickering due to the fact that someone posted an ID question.

I think that you will find that experienced herps like Peter Krauss and Rex Stock were breeding PURE Diamonds in the late 80's and early 90's , and to say that two of the most respected herps in Australia were breeding hybrids.:lol:

I highly doubt it if many people do actually know who Bwana actually is.

Yes the infamous Brian Starkey has spent a lot of time in the field, right in the heart of Diamond country , so chances are he probably could go head to head with anyone on purity on them but there is no need for cheap shots.

The Diamond debate is a cloudy one at best, but there is no need for cheap shots. APS is a good site and it does not need bickering due to the fact that someone posted an ID question.

Chip.

Hi Chip
Please re-read my post carefully....
I did'nt say nobody bred pure diamonds...it was "nobody was ' VERY' successful at breeding diamonds"....not that it hadn't been done.
I personally know Peter and have spoken to Rex on the forums.....both of whom are very knowledge in their field.
I actually owe Peter's ex for getting me into the field of wildlife keeping; to which i'm truly thankful for.
So ok; that's two keepers that have bred Diamond's in the day.
I'm sure there have been severial others; but not many
Ok...lets talk cheap shots.....
Granted Bawana's comments in relation to the thread in question; could have very well been called cheap...depending on where you stand.
What about words like 'infamous'....yes; to a certain degree... i guess he was :lol:
The difference is; Mr Starkey has never tried to play the 'Mr Right' charade; unlike a lot of other so called 'top keepers' in this country.
I find it rather interesting; in a morbid sort of way.....
Whenever his name is mentioned among some of these people 'they often focus their attentions at down grading his ability or his exploits';
mostly to avoid the truth about their own inability or experience.....Talks cheap.
In fairness; he has in fact inspired and helped some of the most noted herp keepers into the positions in which they find themselves today;
wouldn't surprise me if you were yet another.....
Same old story; behind every number 1; there's those that do the dirty work to make them look good.....
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story hey? It's cool; those in the know, know...
Anyway; i wont bore you further...just thought it worth a mention.
And yes Chip; i do understand what you were getting at....point taken

 

[DameJacquie]

Is the moral to this story that cheerleaders really are brainless? :?

 

[MrBredli]

After a couple of drinks, yes.

 

[lizard_lover]

a butterfly

 

[cockney red]

I'm sorry Indicus but i thought i gave a perfectly good response to the" ID THREAD". Just thought it amusing that you should see fit to turn it into a dig at Pugsly, and then into a completely off topic rehash of an old topic. You had plenty enough chance to voice your opinions then. Dont get bitter & twisted. Lifes too short.:lol:

 

[natrix]

Well , I learned what the ID snake is , & the thread did go a bit sideways ,but I thought
Bwana's comments were ridiculous.