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Thanx for that ashley - I might give them a buzz. But was planning to when they had comepleted the autopsy so that they might keep an eye on their animals. I don't think that they would be very likely to be very 'helpful' in the way of partial refund etc etc. They would probably say that I had her long enough to have killed her myself :(
But I will see how I go
Thanx hun
 
Bex, definatey post the results please with as much detail as possible. I have several WC beardeds and Bluetongues and am very interested in what they find.

Also, probably worth a mention that all petshops are not bad. It has been mentioned that it was scrawny at purchase, in hindsight maybe a trip to the vet prior to or as soon after sale as possible may have made a huge difference.
 
What can I say?? It's just been such an ordeal.
But I have full intentions of posting as many dets as possible about the results. You fellow herpers out there were the first ones I thought of when they said that it had 'never been found in beardies'.
As for the name of the worm - the vet said that the professors had said the name in passing but that she didn't have it on Jaffas file to give to me... That was annoying enough.
But yes - please, tell me what ppl use to worm their animals b/c the vets are insisting that it cannot be transferred to my animals and won't tell me what they suggest to use!!
Also, yes, she was scrawny. But they told me that she had just recently laid. I figured that it was nothing that a hell of a lot of food wouldn't fix.
My fault.
Thanx guys - will keep you guys posted. (Apparently should have the results in a few weeks.)
Bex
 
Womas4me its up to the supplier in this case the petshop to sell the animal in god condition or not sell it at all.There the ones with the permits to deal and the conditions of the permits must surely state that they cant deal in animals that are in substandard health in other words they should give appropriate consideration for implementation of measures which include worming all animals.I know you worm and flagyl herps and so does URS so they should be know different or lose there license.Specialists have to be better just in my oppinion than the coconut crabs,budgies, beardies and penny tortoise shops i hate them more than browns hates toads. :twisted: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
 
I agree, the shop should have ensured that the animal was in good health prior to sale or not sold it. They should also provide appropriate and adequete care at all times. Unfortunately this can be interpreted many ways and will come down to how much they wish to spend on each animal prior to selling it. A retail outlet will always be driven by the bottom line due to overheads etc. Worming etc etc will add extra cost to each animal sold, and would likely end up losing sales due to animals being even more expensive than they are at present.
I dont agree that it is the shops responsibility to worm all animals. How many people here ( private keepers ) worm their animals prior to selling them. So far i cant find a single for sale add that states the animal has just been wormed or will be prior to sale. I group sellers whether commercial or private into the same mould, and dont expect more from some than others.
 
Hey Nome :)
I was seeing my local vet (who has been in close contact with the vet in Altona) coz I don't drive and my family wouldn't drive me to any of the other herp vets. Also, on the weekends, I could catch P/transport to get her to one of the herp vets - but they all have really short hours on Saturdays and thanx to me being on a Vline train time table - I could never make it.
Once Zo heard about what was going, she very kindly offered to come and pick us up and take Jaffa to a herp vet, but by then it was too late....
I need a car....
B
 
Sorry if my post sounded awful bex, I meant that the vet should have told you how to worm your other animals at home. I had two very ill barbata that I took to the Vet. One died before I got it there and the other, like you, was eauthanised by the vet and a post mortem conducted. He found worms and promptly booked MOTH in to show him how to worm all our reptiles. I might add, He eauthanised our baby for free and he didn't charge us for the worming lesson either. All we paid for was the crop needle. He gave us syringes and tubes and told us where to buy Panacur from cheaper than what he sells it. This showed me he was more interested in our animals welfare than getting money out of us, which I would have gladly paid him. We bought Panacur (a sheep wormer) from the local produce and went on to worm all of our animals and even the other barbata, which would definately have had the worms, are all doing fantastic.
If I remember correctly, the dosage was 1 milligram Panacur, per 100 grams of weight. But I would check on that, I could be out being as dippy as I am. We used a paper clip to pry open their mouths while poking the crop needle down into the lizards belly and injecting the panacur straight in. To worm the hatchlings we were given a tiny tube to use as the crop needle was too big. You can also inject this stuff into a pinky and just feed the pinky to them but since ours was a serious infection we went with the needles. We were advised to worm all our reptiles every six months as it can't harm them and will keep any intestinal parasites at bay. The same stuff is used to worm the snakes, by injecting it into their meals.
I have talked with this vet and he is willing to check, worm and sex every reptile we will be selling at our shop. Even providing the medical on paper for us to pass on to the buyer.
I do know what you saw and how you felt Bex. I know it's a terrile thing. I cried for ages. I just think you should find another Vet.
 
Thanx Bouncer - MUCH appreciated
I will call the vet today (and speak to a different vet) and ask what the dosage would be and see about buying some...
Yeah - I want them ALL wormed. Netteds, painteds, beardies, frillies and childreni... I don't want this to hapen again.
Thanx so much everyone - it means a lot.
Bex
 
hey bex,
So sorry about the little fella', it's such a bad feeling. Now I know your probably sick of people telling you what vet to go to, but Jim Greenwood is fantastic and Brain at the herpshop recomends him.
Simmy
 
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