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Fortunately, I don't take advice from random forum people. All the reptile carers I know have done a full one or two day course on reptile care, as well as a two day snake and reptile handling course. I gather most of you have done the same?

Your comments could be more positive and encouraging Scott. I take my hat off to all wildlife carers who give their time as volunteers freely to help native wildlife, including reptiles. The amount of knowledge and skills learnt from caring for sick, injured animals is immense and much more challenging than dealing with healthy pets. The most rewarding part is always the release of an animal back to its natural habitat.

Sadly as I mentioned before, many lost, dumped, escaped and displaced animals including illegal exotics, are rescued every year.
 
Bellawonga,

two, two day courses.... Yeah that makes you an expert for sure. This is exactly my point.

Reptile careers often treat herps like the warm and fuzzies, they get attached and make up some reason to justify why they are keeping it... Not realizing the immuno-suppression they are causing via stress.

i would rather see a few herps die left in the wild in turn moving back into the ecosystem as food. Than see the amount that go into "care" unessassarily and die through poor husbandry related matters or are held for no real reason at all. Eg the albino red belly that was not returned to the wild as it was an albino.

Enjoying the challenge of keeping herps healthy
Scott Eipper
 
Hi, if you can't find the original owner of a snake when you know it's not a local species to the area your from. Email NPWS and explain your situation to them, they should then put the snake on the ballot but they might ask you for a report from a veterinarian saying that it can't be released, which is very easy. That way, they find a new owner for the animal. Works for me everytime.
Cheers Dave
 
Hi Scott,

As you did, we all start somewhere and the course is very intense with powerPoint and practical sessions (hands on). There is also a two day advanced reptile course at times. No-one is saying they are an expert. We have a comprehensive manual written by David Vella, a reptile specialist vet in Sydney, although are updating it soon. The experience comes like with everything, from the doing. We all learn a lot as we go but have the resources and basics to help guide us as well as other experienced members to get help from. I have been doing this for over 20 years myself. Stress factors are always taken into account and animals released only when fully recovered from injuries and doing everything as they should do including shedding. Give a little credit where due as there are many good carers out there really doing a great job who do not treat their animals like pets. We euthanase many reptiles that come in with extensive injuries and I wouldn't leave them to die on a road or in the bush if I found one. Most of our rescues are of a result of motor vehicle impact, dog or cat attack or human infllicted through fences, nets or garden tools and whipper snippers etc...

I came on this site to try and reunite a snake for someone and am having no luck here. Later today I will remove my membership and I wish you all the best with your snakes.

Carla
 
Keep your membership going Bellawonga. This site is a good medium for advertising found snakes. Some members get full of thier own self importance and loose track of what some posts are about but luckily its a minority group. The majority of responses your getting are on the right track and are coming from sensible members. Maybe If you just ask for prospective owners to send personal messages and you skipped the posts here could eliminate some of the non constructive comments. Good luck.
 
Bellawonga, you are receiving advice from one of the best names in the Herp hobby, whether you agree or disagree with it, no advice has been given vindictively. While you joined the forum for a decent cause, you yourself admitted there was only a slim chance of finding the owner. There will always be differing opinions, understandings and ideas, take them on board or choose to ignore them but don't take the easy path of quitting as its easier to agree to disagree.

Of course, the above is only advice, take it or leave it.
 
Didn't see you post Scott but while we agree to a point we dont agree fully I guess. There is a large group of reptile/wildlife carers here in NSW who have, working with vets and scientists, advanced vetinairy wildlife care and husbandry over the last 10 years. Most ordinary carers fall by the wayside and the actual rehabilitation is carried out by very few people.
In the end, you cant leave most animals to die as it upsets those for whom these organisations were formed. The general public. Someone has to keep things pretty for them.
 
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