yeah thanks people, its really some thing that gets people when they see it. I dont really care if it was common. but i can assure you its not, also its not a sting ray . etc. its real and its important that it gets a name.some people say its this its that, but if they new then they could prove it to me then i can let it rest.
But until then its unidentifiable.
thanks again people for the info, i wont give up on it and when i find out you will be the first to know.
cheers steve.