Jay84
Very Well-Known Member
OK, well after just spending quite some time reading through all the posts to this thread i am going to add my own reply.
I am an openly gay male, god forbid i offend anyone by being so open about it (Horserule/Shane13)!
Now i am not surprised to hear opinions such as Horserule's and Shane13's. i have had to deal with judgments and taunts from people like them all my life. I am one of the lucky ones, one of those who after so many years of trying to suppress who i am realised there was no use in fighting it, otherwise i would have ended up being a suicide statistic.
i was brought up in an anti gay household. there are a number of incidents that i remember vividly, my dad turning the tv off when there were gays on it, he wouldnt just change the channel..... he would turn the TV off! my mother telling me i shouldnt hang around with a student at school that i told her was gay. i can assure you horserules that this type of behaviour was ALOT more dmaging to my psychology than having 2 parents who were accepting and supportive of me. i came out when i was 18, i kept it secret till this time because at this age i had become independent enough to be able to fend for myself. yes, i was kicked out of home, the inevitable happened.
i have grown up to be very level headed and openminded. my parents also have started changing in their ways. it has taken over 6 years for my parents to enter into a discussion about it. i am still not allowed to stay at their house with my partner. i am not even allowed to hold his hand in their presence. but i know that in years to come it wont be such an issue. they will see that we are in love, and happy together. so i agree that it does take discussions like this to change peoples views or at least educate them.
as for horserules saying it a choice?!?!?!?! where did you come up with that? do you honestly think i or any other GLBT (Gay Lesbian Bi-sexual or Transgendered) person would CHOOSE to live a life of continual judgment, having to keep it a secret to many ppl is wrong. i shouldnt have to fear for my safety whhile walkin the streets at night hand in hand with my partner.
As for them just being children and supposedly not knowing what they want? i have a friend who is post op transgender. she knew from the age of around 4 that she was not ''normal''. she would always want the barbies and dolls, dresses and such. her mother tried to suppress this and buy her boys toys. her dad on the other hand supported her and provided her with such toys. when she was in her teens her mother finally accepted this. when she was 18 she underwent surgery. she is one of the most amazing people i know. her story is amazing, what i have told is nothing to what she has been through.
and about me trying to ''influence'' those ''normal'' people, and be ''disrespectful'' by being true to myself and maybe taking my partner to a family BBQ...... i wouldnt find it disgusting or insulting if you and your partner where to display affection publicly and in view of myself. so why would you? i am not trying to convert anybody...... it is not going to make someone gay by seeing me with my boyfriend...... such a view just doesnt make sense.
anyways, ill sit back and read the replies to my post
I am an openly gay male, god forbid i offend anyone by being so open about it (Horserule/Shane13)!
Now i am not surprised to hear opinions such as Horserule's and Shane13's. i have had to deal with judgments and taunts from people like them all my life. I am one of the lucky ones, one of those who after so many years of trying to suppress who i am realised there was no use in fighting it, otherwise i would have ended up being a suicide statistic.
i was brought up in an anti gay household. there are a number of incidents that i remember vividly, my dad turning the tv off when there were gays on it, he wouldnt just change the channel..... he would turn the TV off! my mother telling me i shouldnt hang around with a student at school that i told her was gay. i can assure you horserules that this type of behaviour was ALOT more dmaging to my psychology than having 2 parents who were accepting and supportive of me. i came out when i was 18, i kept it secret till this time because at this age i had become independent enough to be able to fend for myself. yes, i was kicked out of home, the inevitable happened.
i have grown up to be very level headed and openminded. my parents also have started changing in their ways. it has taken over 6 years for my parents to enter into a discussion about it. i am still not allowed to stay at their house with my partner. i am not even allowed to hold his hand in their presence. but i know that in years to come it wont be such an issue. they will see that we are in love, and happy together. so i agree that it does take discussions like this to change peoples views or at least educate them.
as for horserules saying it a choice?!?!?!?! where did you come up with that? do you honestly think i or any other GLBT (Gay Lesbian Bi-sexual or Transgendered) person would CHOOSE to live a life of continual judgment, having to keep it a secret to many ppl is wrong. i shouldnt have to fear for my safety whhile walkin the streets at night hand in hand with my partner.
As for them just being children and supposedly not knowing what they want? i have a friend who is post op transgender. she knew from the age of around 4 that she was not ''normal''. she would always want the barbies and dolls, dresses and such. her mother tried to suppress this and buy her boys toys. her dad on the other hand supported her and provided her with such toys. when she was in her teens her mother finally accepted this. when she was 18 she underwent surgery. she is one of the most amazing people i know. her story is amazing, what i have told is nothing to what she has been through.
and about me trying to ''influence'' those ''normal'' people, and be ''disrespectful'' by being true to myself and maybe taking my partner to a family BBQ...... i wouldnt find it disgusting or insulting if you and your partner where to display affection publicly and in view of myself. so why would you? i am not trying to convert anybody...... it is not going to make someone gay by seeing me with my boyfriend...... such a view just doesnt make sense.
anyways, ill sit back and read the replies to my post