OPMV defamation

[levis04]

Is it possible he might not have know if he had it?? not saying he does or anything but can it go undetected? does it need something to trigger and outbreak? hope it all pans out well, nobody want to see snakes put to sleep!

 

[ssssmithy]

Obviously didn't go on to read my further point.... They were refunded, and then the idiots have gone and spread rumours.... I went on to say that OPMV can lay dormant without the owner even knowing.... So just like everyone else in this thread, I am saying the buyer should have got their facts right before saying that Luke knew he had sick animals and was selling them off... Please!

wasnt havin a crack matey,just having a say. i hope for lukes sake and alot of other peoples sakes that this isnt true. but by what i was saying was also stateing the point that you never know! all the best, smithy.

 

[ad]

This is a horrible situation to be put in, facts need to be established before comments are made,
They certainly havent thought about it before making these accusations,
Good luck with it Luke,
Cheers
Adam.

 

[Ramsayi]

Everyone can speculate as much as they want however it will achieve nothing.
Dave has come out and layed it on the table,further information (test results) aren't at hand yet.

I'm sure the people directly affected will do the right thing and lock down until everything is sorted.If results come back as "consistent with" then I would hope that the affected people remain in lockdown and take further steps to ensure it doesn't continue on.

 

[Noongato]

Theres a risk of everyone having OPMV in their collection, might never have anything at all to do with a seller. I mean how many people buy second hand enclosures, hide rocks etc etc.
Everytime theres a unhappy buyer they spew those 4 letter "OPMV" as revenge for their purchase dying.

 

[caustichumor]

It seems to go without question these days, all brown snakes are Taipans, and any dead pythons have OPMV....

 

[reptilegirl_jordan]

Theres a risk of everyone having OPMV in their collection, might never have anything at all to do with a seller. I mean how many people buy second hand enclosures, hide rocks etc etc.
Everytime theres a unhappy buyer they spew those 4 letter "OPMV" as revenge for their purchase dying.

here here

 

[m.punja]

I'm confused. The snake was a hatchie and it died two days after purchase, I thought OPMV worked slower then that. I also thought that australian vets didn't have the appropriat equipment to diagnose reptiles with OPMV, so how is there a vet report suggesting the snake in question has OPMV. Also, was there more then one snake of that clutch that died? (after the heat wave that is.) Is this vet willing to step forward and acused iceman of knowingly having OPMV? Interesting story, will be more interesting if more studies are able to be done on the dead specimen if it was kept or at least it's siblings.

 

[m.punja]

It seems to go without question these days, all brown snakes are Taipans, and any dead pythons have OPMV....

Don't forget all gray snakes are keelbacks.

 

[gozz]

These Rumors are heresay and should go no further without
proper proof and the person responsible should come forward
and tell us the proof that they have. Or keep there pie hole shut

 

[zobo]

I agree, there is no definitive test in Oz for the disease as far as I know, even vets are only making educated guesses based on symtoms etc
correct me if I'm wrong
But I would want a detailed report by a reputable vet before anyone should make any judgements.
j

 

[Ships]

I can tell you that if I had a recently purchased animal die and then got a pm done and the vet diagnosed OPMV I would be highly dicstressed!!! and a refund would be the last thing on my mind, what about all the other animals in the shed. Its an insidious disease and there are no simple answers other than extreme caution

 

[bk201]

quarantine is an answer.

 

[MrSpike]

So when a vet report is made public for the Pilbara Pythons syndicate and the rest of the forum to see(assuming it is), and if it shows that the case is 100% positivly consistent with OPMV ... what action will Luke be taking to rectify the problem? Will he be euthanasing the whole of his collection? Just curious to see how serious he is about the issue at hand and what actions he is willing to take to help protect the hobby.

This is all assuming the vet report shows a 100% confirmation of the disease.

 

[funcouple]

So when a vet report is made public for the Pilbara Pythons syndicate and the rest of the forum to see(assuming it is), and if it shows that the case is 100% positivly consistent with OPMV ... what action will Luke be taking to rectify the problem? Will he be euthanasing the whole of his collection? Just curious to see how serious he is about the issue at hand and what actions he is willing to take to help protect the hobby.

This is all assuming the vet report shows a 100% confirmation of the disease.

i have wondered this. but wouldnt it go further than luke(iceman) collection? if OPMV is proved it must of been introduced into lukes collection by a snake that came from where??

then how far has OPMV spred? wouldnt every snake from this collection be at risk of having OPMV and then passing it on to the new owners collection?

i sincerly hope that this isnt proved as there will be many snakes and collections that will need to be euthanased if it is proved

 

[Khagan]

So when a vet report is made public for the Pilbara Pythons syndicate and the rest of the forum to see(assuming it is), and if it shows that the case is 100% positivly consistent with OPMV ... what action will Luke be taking to rectify the problem? Will he be euthanasing the whole of his collection? Just curious to see how serious he is about the issue at hand and what actions he is willing to take to help protect the hobby.

This is all assuming the vet report shows a 100% confirmation of the disease.

I thought it wasn't possible to get 100% confirmation in Australia?

 

[arbok]

I thought it wasn't possible to get 100% confirmation in Australia?

they can send the snakes overseas for tests.... i dont know much about this desiese only that its truely horrible and i feel greatly for anyone who could be affected by it.

im sure that if the person does have the hard facts on paper, then they will come out eventually. but until then why jump the gun and medal in what clearly isnt any of our business?

 

[MrSpike]

I thought it wasn't possible to get 100% confirmation in Australia?

As far as I'm aware the whole snake, or samples of organs etc are able to be sent to lab's in the US. Maybe someone else with more details could provide more info.

 

[Australis]

they can send the snakes overseas for tests....

Name me a single case thats been sent overseas for testing?

 

[arbok]

Name me a single case thats been sent overseas for testing?

im not going to jump into heated discussion about this as i am by no means an expert and have little knowledge on the subject.

so sure you win? clap clap?

ill just go back to reading the thread now