Help Chicken Beak Went Through My Snakes Neck

[alumba]

i just want to know why picked a chicken head, the reason behind a chicken head? because force feeding and chicken head would never seem comman sense? i just want to know the thinking behind it? even if i was a newbie i dont think i would even of thought about a chicken head?

yes i know,:? but common sence can only be learned by the mistakes of others and our selves
and i think we all have learned somthing to day.

 

[Reptilian]

well said alumba....

@ ashman, your snakes are nice ones m8...hope your male is ok now...

 

[Reptilian]

and to sparticus...education @ the time of buying a herp would be great, unfortunately with the ever increasing popularity of keeping herps, even the pet shops are just in it for a quick $ and dont often know **** all...

 

[whiteyluvsrum]

im thinking about force feeding? what should i use? - mouse, rat, chicken head?
ill take the chicken head.

it wouldnt of been a mistake if ya just think about it for a half a second.
its called common sense!

 

[alumba]

yes i know,:? but common sence can only be learned by the mistakes of others and our selves
and i think we all have learned somthing to day.

and sarcasm is not a nice thing

 

[ashman07]

Just to clear things up for the ................ people on here. I have tried force feeding him a pinkie rat and he wouldn't take it. As my other sankes eat bantams reguraly, i thought I would try him on one, so I just used the head. SIMPLE MISTAKE.

 

[sparticus]

I am a realist and it will never be that way,but when I read someone has made a simple mistake and reaches out for advice and they are basically told what were you thinking doing that It makes me think back to some of the people I have dealt with and how good they were.Always happy to help before and after the sale.I feel that money is an insentive and some people have decided to keep reptiles for that purpose,but who can begrudge people making some extra cash with the cost of living the way it is at the moment.I just believe whether your in it for cash or the love of the animals we still need to provide a service that is of high standard.The reptiles have gone off in a big way and petshops will more then likely start to sell them and that is all part of expansion of the reptile trade in NSW and everyone has the right to enjoy reptiles as much as the rest of us.Lets do our best to provide a service that looks after everyones interests.

 

[alumba]

what do u mean it wouldnt take it?? did you work it all the way down to its stomic? did it regurge?

 

[Reptilian]

thats true sparticus, but im talking about the petshops that think they will jump on the popularity of selling herps (the way its goin) and yet there are quite a few petshops that i have been to that have started selling herps, and they not absolutely nothing...I know more than them...lol

im just stating that you said they should be providing us herpers (or more so newbies herpers) with as much knowledge and advice that the shop knows about a specific herp being brought, but quite often the shop doesnt even know about em...IMO to become a licensed dealer (pet shop etc) they should have more stricter requirements...

 

[whiteyluvsrum]

well, i wouldnt of tried the chicken head after the first failed attempted of force feeding it.

 

[ashman07]

I tried force feeding 4 times with pinkie rats.

 

[whiteyluvsrum]

should of stopped trying after the second time, and take it to the vet.

 

[sparticus]

Reptilian,I could not agree more.I wasn't defending petshops.I have been to some that are dodgy and some that meet the highest of standards,its the same in the reptile keeping arena some are great to deal with and some are not.I think I might of strayed from the main concern here and that is the injured snake and its owner.I just wanted to voice that we are not all looking after those that buy from us and lets put a bit of onus on ourselves who are selling the reptiles to do more.I think I might go back to my own little dreams of a utopian society and that life can be fair.

 

[Reptilian]

lol, yer i couldnt agree more m8...

 

[rockman]

Everyone says that we should be nice because he made a mistake ! Has he asked for advice on here about how long they can go for without food , What about how to force feed it ? What about how many times to i try to force feed it ? A quick check in the previous topic's probably would have answered his questions ! Have a quick look at the people that are still here posting , probably 5 % have been here longer then 3 months . Yes people make mistakes , but try to get advice first to learn how to do the right thing , before you make the mistake .

 

[Reptilian]

fair comment, but IMO whats done is doen...nothin we can do but help him out now...no point bagging him out for what has happened...We are here to give advice, not bag people out or give negative comments about what has happened..he may or may not (i dunno) have read and or asked for advice before hand, but he is askin for advice now, so lets give it to him...focus on the positive, his snake is and prolly will be ok, it could have been worse...

 

[whiteyluvsrum]

Have a quick look at the people that are still here posting , probably 5 % have been here longer then 3 months .QUOTE]

what do you mean by that?

 

[rockman]

Have a quick look at the people that are still here posting , probably 5 % have been here longer then 3 months .QUOTE]

what do you mean by that?

What is meant by that is , the whole site has changed to 95 % of newbies that seem to think that they know everthing there is to know in a matter of a month . Most of the guys that have been here for a year or two have gone and this is whats left . This is / was a reptile forum / site where most things discussed where reptile related , now it seems it's mostly other stuff with a little bit of reptile discussion . Have a look at the topic's or posts , mabye i'm wrong ??? You never stop learning about things , i suppose it's just if you want to learn is a different matter .

 

[whiteyluvsrum]

just because people havent been apart of this forum for very long, dosent mean they havent been keeping herps for that long.
do you think when people buy reptiles, they get a computer hooked up to the net and a get an account with APS at the same time?

 

[sparticus]

There is difference between being on this site for 3 months and the length of time people have kept reptiles,this site is not an indication of how long people have had reptiles just how long they have been a member of this site.I'll ask a questiono you believe it was feeding the chicken head that caused the damage to the snake or the technique in force feeding that caused the damage?I personally could not of thought that would of happened using a chicken head. If people get ridiculed when they post an inccident no wonder they don't ask questions.I never said the person in question was not part to blame I was just trying to put the point across that there was need to be hard on them and basically that the people jumping on him have probably had inncidents occur themselves( I know I have made some beauties myself) but I always learnt from them and had the support of the reptile keepers around me not their ridicule.Inncidents happen he will learn by them as will we all.I am sure we have all learnt something from this persons inccident.