Ashley and John excorted from Big Brother!

[FAY]

I am sure they must pick the most pathetic people in Australia to go on Big Brother!

 

[Retic]

Absolutely right Hix.

 

[Wrasse]

The guys had every right to feel that she was up for a joke considering a week or so earlier she had asked them both for sexual favours insisting they both do her etc.

Sorry, I can't keep quiet on this issue any longer.

Since when is being restrained by two people and being slapped in the face with a penis a joke ?

This might be a fetish thing, this is definately a control issue (or lack of one), this may very well be two twisted individuals that shouldn't be about on the street if they, and yourself, consider this sort of thing a joke.

Oh, funny haha. What happens when your wife looks over her shoulder at some guy in the street and he, with your liberal attitude, takes it as a come on and jumps her, she might say no, but too late, her shirt is already ripped open and she is already suffering deep emotional hurt, is it funny then?

Great joke J & C. Did you grow up on wannabe fantasy internet porn ?

 

[Nome]

If it wasn't something she might have wanted, why did they feel the need to hold her down first?

It's the oldest trick in the book blaming the actions of the girl for consequent unwanted sexual advances, it's from the dark ages when woman that were considered someone that would sleep with anyone were raped, and everyone said they were asking for it. I'm utterly surprised that some people still think this way.

And J&C, you confirmed that you think like that in one of your first comments that the girl who wanted a threesome was a derogetory name for a woman of low standards, yet the guys who wanted the same things are just typical lads (your words).

I've never watched the sad exuse for a tv show and go right of channel 10 at all because of the amount of advertising. I've always thought that if it was as popular as they say it is, it is a really sad and scary reflection on the Australian society.

 

[pythoness]

How can anyone say this isn't sexual harrassment, when a tap on the bum is concidered sexual harrassment,,,, this is more than harrassment, it's abuse..... the only time something like this would be acceptable would be if it were between adults who had a thing for it and was pre-arranged in a roll play or something similar,,,, what happened was a spur of the moment thing done by drunk people to a girl, who while equally as drunk, still did not deserve to have her space invaded and restrained against her will and be slapped in the face with a dick....... i'm sorry but a slap in the face is abuse, a slap in the face with a dick is sexual abuse,,, simple as that.

 

[Retic]

How this can be put down to just a bit of fun by 2 lads is beyond me I'm afraid.

 

[Moclobe]

But they stopped when asked.
That makes it a mere wrong judgement on their part.

To answer somebodies question.
Yes I do have every right to grab a girls breast if I feel she is inviting me to do so. And if I thought wrongly & she ask's me not to do that & I stop then obviously I had judged her signals wrongly. That is NOT sexual assault IMO. And we are talking people we know not complete strangers here. The guys had every right to feel that she was up for a joke considering a week or so earlier she had asked them both for sexual favours insisting they both do her etc. The way everyone carries on about sexual harrasment these days it is as if you have to straight out ask for sexual favours without beating around the bush then have a stern "yes" answer before getting into it. Wheres the days of spontanious actions? where things like kissing, cuddling & foreplay lead to sex. I am suprised at the rate of birth considering how many members of the community actually ask for sex. I am guessing under 15% for sure.

What would your opinion be if it was your daughter involved in the BB incident? How would you feel if I went up and grab your daughter's breast and then said sorry I thought you wanted it? Would you still feel the same way?

Regards David

 

[pugsly]

At the end of the day its up to Camilla if it is or isnt. If she felt that it was, it it. If she didnt WHICH she stated clearly numerous times, it isnt.

The police examined the footage and found no evidence anyway.

Move on.

 

[rodentrancher]

RE: Re: RE: Ashley and John excorted from Big Brother!

Dave was up late the other night because of not being able to sleep and watched some of it. I've seen a bit here and there, but it is the biggest BS show we've ever seen in our lives! TAKE IT OFF THE TV!! Stupid stupid show!!

 

[peterescue]

At the end of the day its up to Camilla if it is or isnt. If she felt that it was, it it. If she didnt WHICH she stated clearly numerous times, it isnt.

The police examined the footage and found no evidence anyway.

Move on.

I understand it is because there is no complaint been made.

 

[MrBredli]

Official word from the police was "lack of evidence".

 

[Sdaji]

Lack of evidence? Isn't there a zillion cameras in every room of that house? I have no idea what happened, I don't know the context in which things happened, but if ever there was a time when there could be absolutely no doubt at all about what happened, wouldn't this be the case? Haven't they been watched constantly (literally) for several weeks by about a dozen people? I can't see how there could possibly be a lack of evidence.

 

[MrBredli]

They don't have much of a case without a formal complaint. Reallly all they have is a couple of videos showing her laughing and mucking around, that and about a million people screaming for blood. It wouldn't stand up in court.

 

[SnakeWrangler]

The police examined the footage and found no evidence anyway.

The evidence they don't have is a complaint from Camilla, there is more than enough evidence to convict them both, only Camilla (in a textbook victim mindset) feels it is her fault and will not pursue it.

Anyone who thinks that "preceived" signals from a girl is an invite to go in for the grope has serious problems, that is not normal behaviour.

Of course when there is previous sexual interaction between two people then you can assume a level of implicit consent, but even between partners you would never have the right to force them against their will, let alone as a "joke" on someone you have known for a matter of weeks!!

 

[peterescue]

no, official word is that no complaint has been made.

 

[MrBredli]

Yes Pete, but the police have reviewed the tapes and stated they would not be pressing charges due to lack of evidence.

 

[peterescue]

ok Brendan, you be right this time. I'll take the next one.

 

[MrBredli]

No, i want them all :twisted:

P.S. We're saying the same thing here - no complaint = lack of evidence.

 

[shamous1]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Ashley and John excorted from Big Brother!

What are you people actually writing about? Are these people members here?

I thought you were an intelligent, well educated person Pete. By not knowing who we are talking about proves that you are indeed that.

 

[shamous1]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Ashley and John excorted from Big Brothe

As with any media situation, we will never know the full truth behind this whole situation. Maybe Camilla did complain but was forced away from filing anything formal through the show producers.

Fact - No women (or Man)should have to be put in that situation and no one has the right to do what they did. Females deserve the right t be treated wth a little bit more respect than this particular female received.