croc farming? croc skin purse.
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Allies_snakes
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missllama
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lol alie i didnt hear about that.... bet his mate wasnt too happy with him after that lol wonder if the croc or the shot in the arm did more damage?
so they do go out and get eggs in the wild then incubate them? i just gathered they would only have crocs on the farm breeding
is that also to stop the population in the wild getting bigger or just so they can have more on the farms?
so they do go out and get eggs in the wild then incubate them? i just gathered they would only have crocs on the farm breeding
is that also to stop the population in the wild getting bigger or just so they can have more on the farms?
Naja_nivea
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Government sponsored poaching. what next?
BJC-787
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the croc farms do breed alot of their own crocs.
just for information
if a crocodile farm gets a rogue crocodile from the wild it is illegal for them to make money direct from that croc even when it dies natuarlly, so they can't kill it and sell the meat or skin but they can breed from it and use it's babies for those purposes.
just for information
if a crocodile farm gets a rogue crocodile from the wild it is illegal for them to make money direct from that croc even when it dies natuarlly, so they can't kill it and sell the meat or skin but they can breed from it and use it's babies for those purposes.
Naja_nivea
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I think that it might be to stop unscrupulous farms from scamming it as they have vested interest. ie get people to phone about "rogue" crocs all the time and for them to be captured and given to farms. Guess lots might "accidentally" die often in their captivity if valuable. Just an idea though.
Dipcdame
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Why do they not just keep the boys away from the girls??????? Would cause a LOT less heartache for some!!!!!!!!!
The farms do breed and incubate their own eggs, however, the vast majority of eggs are collected and incubated on site...
Naja - It seems pointless discussing this with you as you seem to be obsessed with pessimistic conspiracy theories. Quite simply, regardless of anyone's opinion on the matter, both the croc farms and the wild croc populations seem to be doing exceedingly well under the current system...
Naja - It seems pointless discussing this with you as you seem to be obsessed with pessimistic conspiracy theories. Quite simply, regardless of anyone's opinion on the matter, both the croc farms and the wild croc populations seem to be doing exceedingly well under the current system...
Naja_nivea
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Maybe pointless trying to argue with some people with no compassion or heart. I am not obsessed with pessimistic conspiracy theories, just upset with 90% of the populations lack of compassion and complete and utter decadence. I read there are only 75,000 salties in Oz so not doing "exceedingly" well. Bearing in mind that the population was down to around 3,000 37 years ago. also bearing in mind the population does not have the same age balance as before ie will be several decades of good conservation before balance is restored so not "exceedingly well" in my book.
Where do you draw the line? clubbing baby seals the the tens of thousand for the fur? or intensively farming cats and dogs for fur with them piled on top of each other in cages? A crazy German scientist made furnishings and items out of human skin and he and some others would have though quite vogue at the time. Maybe some people would think that killing the seals would be good for fishing as more profit so win win? Maybe some people here would have wanted a nice human skin lamp if living in Germany at the time as quite fashionable in their social circle. Maybe some people would have been conscious enough to make up there own mind and do what reduces suffering. For me intensively farming endangered species for vane fashion reasons and farming intelligent mammals for their fashionable fur is where i draw the line. If all that some people care about is chasing a bit of paper with a bit of ink saying "$" on it and looking fashionable then good luck and hope have happy fulfiled life. There is even movements for the welfare of battery farmed chicken as extremely cruel. Some people with a little compasion draw their metaphorical line sooner rather than later.
Where do you draw the line? clubbing baby seals the the tens of thousand for the fur? or intensively farming cats and dogs for fur with them piled on top of each other in cages? A crazy German scientist made furnishings and items out of human skin and he and some others would have though quite vogue at the time. Maybe some people would think that killing the seals would be good for fishing as more profit so win win? Maybe some people here would have wanted a nice human skin lamp if living in Germany at the time as quite fashionable in their social circle. Maybe some people would have been conscious enough to make up there own mind and do what reduces suffering. For me intensively farming endangered species for vane fashion reasons and farming intelligent mammals for their fashionable fur is where i draw the line. If all that some people care about is chasing a bit of paper with a bit of ink saying "$" on it and looking fashionable then good luck and hope have happy fulfiled life. There is even movements for the welfare of battery farmed chicken as extremely cruel. Some people with a little compasion draw their metaphorical line sooner rather than later.
missllama
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we should all turn vegeterian
not kill anything
and not wear any clothes or shoes that come from animals
and we should all wear tye dye clothing too lol
then everyone will be happy
make love not war!!!!
nah i understand everyones point of views on this subject naja nivea u dont have to agree with the whole killing crocs thing i am honestly surprised that there wasnt alot more people on here saying they are against it, i have learnt alot on this thread tho thanks everyone for ur imput and help on the subject
and everyone make sure this doesnt turn nasty on here would be good to not get this closed lol
not kill anything
and not wear any clothes or shoes that come from animals
and we should all wear tye dye clothing too lol
then everyone will be happy
make love not war!!!!
nah i understand everyones point of views on this subject naja nivea u dont have to agree with the whole killing crocs thing i am honestly surprised that there wasnt alot more people on here saying they are against it, i have learnt alot on this thread tho thanks everyone for ur imput and help on the subject
and everyone make sure this doesnt turn nasty on here would be good to not get this closed lol
Naja_nivea
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If everybody made love not war the world would be better place for all us animals hehe. Yeah i am surprised too. But guess i am easy target for ridicule as wear my heart on the outside and care for animals and nature. I am not a vegetarian but will even kill and eat my own food occasionally when i can but the fish or rabbit etc wont suffer and i have a deal with them and thank them, ie i am only borrowing their energy for little while and promise that i will relinquish all mine one day and others can share in it, whether it be worms, bacteria or fungi or maybe even a croc hehe.
Copied from a website i just found:- http://www.alv.org.au/issues/fur.php
Fur: A fashion statement for some, a cruel death sentence for others.
80-100 million animals are killed by the clothing and fur industries EVERY year. Hundreds of thousands of raccoons and sables, and millions of farmed mink, foxes and kangaroos are used. These animals are farmed or trapped in the wild, just to satisfy ever changing fashion trends.
The fur trade is a violent, bloody industry. Trapping, beating, drowning and ripping animals skins from their backs simply for the sake of vanity is absolutely indefensible.
When people wear fur, they are showing the world their complete disregard for nature and animals.
Copied from a website i just found:- http://www.alv.org.au/issues/fur.php
Fur: A fashion statement for some, a cruel death sentence for others.
80-100 million animals are killed by the clothing and fur industries EVERY year. Hundreds of thousands of raccoons and sables, and millions of farmed mink, foxes and kangaroos are used. These animals are farmed or trapped in the wild, just to satisfy ever changing fashion trends.
The fur trade is a violent, bloody industry. Trapping, beating, drowning and ripping animals skins from their backs simply for the sake of vanity is absolutely indefensible.
When people wear fur, they are showing the world their complete disregard for nature and animals.
BJC-787
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so would people have us all turn vegeterian not eat anything that comes from farmed animals
meat from cattle, sheep, pigs and chickens
milk from cows
eggs from chickens
it dosn't make sense, farming crocs is just like a farmer of cattle to sell to the slaughter house for meat.
meat from cattle, sheep, pigs and chickens
milk from cows
eggs from chickens
it dosn't make sense, farming crocs is just like a farmer of cattle to sell to the slaughter house for meat.
seumas12345
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LOL i live in the NT and let me tell you its not done for research.... In the Northern Territory you do not get your crocodile products from Crocodylus park.... We have actual croc farms where crocodiles are breed for meat and crocodile products..... It is a very profitable industry... The law is, no crocodile can be killed in the wild for it's meat or skin.... If a wild crocodile dies naturally, it can be skinned for the skin, but cannot be sold!
The crocs in crocodylus park are just for show and aren't killed for meat or skin... But sure if they died they would use the skin....
The crocs in crocodylus park are just for show and aren't killed for meat or skin... But sure if they died they would use the skin....
Naja_nivea
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erm, maybe read some of he preceding posts.
seumas12345
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I did.... and decided I would simply answer the initial question again for those who don't want to read all the crap above.... Farming animals is a way of life... Supply and demand... And sitting here winging about it sure isn't going to change anything... Next time you take medicine or fall asleep in your house (wood) think about how you have supported the devastation of animals and habitat... it's a plain and simple.... (please don't bother replying this, I was just answering the initial question and am not going to get involved with this pointless debate)
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Naja_nivea
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hehe ok. So if you and casho repeat what other people say and dont listen to any replies then post then this post has served its purpose and finished. Trolls arriving just to antagonise and wind up with inane pointless lobotomised comments......
Have a nice day
Have a nice day
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Its not poaching if its legal. Do you have any evidence to suggest croc farming is bad?
redbellybite
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they will go for the huge ones if they allow trophy hunters to go ahead......as far as the over all cull goes I am not sure if they will leave them where they fall or not ..
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