Lost my job today, RANT THREAD!

[Snowman]

Whilst I feel for you losing your job.
I find this post quite offensive. I am a qualified veterinary nurse and work very hard to get people to understand I am a professional, not someone who wants to play with kittens and puppies. I studied hard and still do continuing education at any spare minute I may have. (to be honest to get cert IV in vet nursing is a bit of a joke) I could of studied to become a vet, I choose to become a vet nurse for my own reasons, not because I was too dumb. My skills I have honed over the years and am very proud of.
I am a "real" vet nurse not an 18yr old kid who serves you at your general practice. My skills and knowledge are far superior to a human nurse, no not tooting my own horn just stating facts. Please find a human nurse who can do what a true vet nurse can/does do. Though of course this is not meant to be derogatory towards any human nurses. Human nurses seem to specialize in one area, whereas I guess we have to specialize in every area, oh and get paid about half what a human nurse does......

In Brisbane if you are an experienced veterinary nurse you can get a job wherever you want as there are very few real veterinary nurses, definitely no shortage of jobs.
Sorry to go off topic, and if I misinterpreted your post I apologize, but some of us are professionals and work very hard to get recognised as such, without people like yourself bringing down the profession "shooshoo"/"euphorion".
Anyway good luck in the job game.

This made me laugh. Perhaps she works part time as a professional clown as well.
How offensive to Vets that she thinks she could have been one! Coulda, shoulda, woulda....But you didn't.

 

[treeofgreen]

Funny thing is, i dont think anyone actually bagged out vet nurses? I AM A VET NURSE AND I AM SUPERIOR AHAAAAAAARRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAGH

Been in your situation a few times OP, dw you will be fine

 

[Bluetongue1]

It is apparent that most of the angst here originated from confusion and then the claws came out. While the confusion has now been addressed it is pity we can’t simply ‘clean the white board’ and start afresh.

My little bit on clarification…
In human nursing you have levels of nurses – Registered (requires a Bachelor of Nursing) and Enrolled (requires a Certificate IV in Nursing or equivalent). The term “carer” used in conjunction with humans is used in circumstances other than other than nursing care. In veterinary nursing you also have two levels of nursing – Qualified (requires a Cert IV in Vet Nursing) and Unqualified (no specific academic requirements). It would make it a lot easier if the latter were referred to by a distinct name such as “Veterinary Assistant”. Qualified Vet Nurses can also go to do further studies such as a Diploma of Veterinary Nursing and a number of different bachelor degrees. Unfortunately these additional qualifications do not affect the job title.

The professions of human nursing and veterinary nursing are not equivalent. Neither are the practitioners in both. Individuals within each vary in their skills and competencies. And to then try and make a general comparison across these different fields of endeavour is the proverbial comparison of apples and oranges. At best you might compare the academic qualifications but in real terms, that is not a good bench mark because of the high degree of on-the-job learning that takes place in both.

A qualified veterinary nurse who is experienced and competent may be asked by the veterinary surgeon to monitor the anaesthetic on a patient. In human surgery you have a doctor who specialises in anaesthesia that has this role. If these situations are as equivalent as they seem to be, why the difference? Clearly, superficial comparisons only tell part of the story.

Expressing pride in the hard work one has done, the competencies gained and the understandings achieved is not a sin. But I feel it should not be done riding on the backs of others.

Cold comfort as it may be, it sounds like the employer has cut off her nose to spite her face.

Blue

 

[damian83]

my mums a nurse unit manager , been in the game since she left school , she just laughed at that , your not superior to them far from it
you deal with animals they specialise in humans its a different ball game so get off your high horse , seriously that has to be one of the most ridiculous statements i have ever read on here ,

and ill put it to you , please show me that a vet nurse can do what hospital nurses do on a daily basis , after car crashes , heart attack victims , you really didnt think about what you where saying , what about someone that had been stabbed in the throat in a main artery and was bleeding profusely , would you really really know what to do in theatre in any of those cases , now forget about that , lets talk about cancer patients and the like , do you even have a clue what goes on there , seeing as your skill are far superior than that of any human nurse , your words not mine

i have to agree 30 years ago my mum studied and became an rn, is still studing today for different areas of nursing, she is in theater and renal, works six days and is EXCELLENT at what she does

 

[BrownHash]

Even though I love animals, I think the stakes are a little higher when it comes to Nursing.

 

[damian83]

^^Agreed. What a ridiculous thing to say Phantomreptiles. And then you go on to insult someone else's profession and toot your own horn haha. *rolls eyes*.

Euphorion you will get another job where you are appreciated, I am sure of it. Most people do go through problems with their employer, as you said. However, your situation is a whole new ballgame. Your current employer is underpaying you, over working you, and denying you your basic right to be legitimately too sick to work ONE DAY in a year of never missing a shift. How ridiculous is it for her to refuse to hire a second person and putting all that pressure on you as he sole person able to care for the animal.

completly agree

hope ya find something better Euphorion......

 

[thomasssss]

i have to agree 30 years ago my mum studied and became an rn, is still studing today for different areas of nursing, she is in theater and renal, works six days and is EXCELLENT at what she does

exactly , the human body is very complex , and things are dealt with a a totally different manner , my mother worked in intensive care when she first began nursing some of the things that she has told me she has had to deal with are insane , picture this, having to ask the parents of a 12 year old boy who had blown himself up in a large storm water drain with a chlorine bomb so badly that he was going to have to be taken off life support , could you ask those parents if they would donate the few parts of his body that where ok to another dying child , sounds easy to some but is it really? this happened to my mother when i was about 4 she left intensive care afterwards

or what happened to my sisters friend who is also a nurse , she had to tell a young girl that her mother was ok and being worked on after a car crash when she knew full well that she died on impact but the doctors didn't want the stress on the young girl when she was in such a critical condition

that sort of stuff doesn't happen with vets and thats just one thing they do on a daily basis , sure vets have to help some grieving owners after their dog has been put to sleep , but thats not a human and you cannot compare the 2

point is phantomreptiles you are not superior to nurses nor do you have the skills to do what they can do , i could rant and rave for pages on end about it and all the different situations but i couldn't be bothered i think i made my point already , none of us , no matter what the profession are superior to our nurses and shouldn't think they are

 

[damian83]

Nurses ambos fire and popo all have to deal with that sort of thing daily, I was gonna try becoming am ambo but after friends stories I don't think I'd last 30 years without breaking down, the stresses would be so bad.

 

[Marzzy]

Nurses ambos fire and popo all have to deal with that sort of thing daily, I was gonna try becoming am ambo but after friends stories I don't think I'd last 30 years without breaking down, the stresses would be so bad.

I heard most don't last 20....

 

[Bluetongue1]

The argument of human versus non-human nursing can only be applied in general terms. The starting requirements are clearly not equal. Both require on-going in-service education, experiential education, specialisation training etc. Whilst you can generalise in comparing the two professions, I do not believe you can say of an individual that “you” know less or are less capable because you are on that side of the fence and not this side.

No-one would dispute that we value human lives above those of animals. As a result, those charged with maintaining the well being of human lives are provided with the opportunity to specialise in particular aspects to that end. In the veterinary world, it is up to the individual practitioner to decide if he or she wishes to extend their knowledge beyond the most common pets encountered. Yet we do expect of vets and their team, a functional working knowledge of diseases and ill-health in a wide range of different animals. At the same time it worth bearing I mind that animals are unable to articulate the symptoms they experience.

The emotional trauma associated with loss of human life is difficult to deal with under even the most straight-forward of circumstances. However, in the nursing profession this applies in particular circumstances only. Police, Surf Lifesaving, Emergency Services workers and the like are faced with an equivalent task on a regular basis.

Bottom line… You can generalise but it does not necessarily apply with any given individual, as frustrating as that might be.

Blue