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lol yeah I just looked them up on youtube and none of the videos are of them being obedient unlike rotties or a shepherd. I also wouldn't want holes in my backyard in the near future haha wouldn't look good at all. So what's staffies usually crossed with that would fix all these small problems? What's usually out there that's not too hard to get? Short coat and muscly (similar to a bulldog, staffy, pitbull, rotties).
 
Have you ever considered a Hungarian Vizsla?

I am a registered breeder of pedigree vizslas. Feel free to visit my website Jerojath Hungarian Vizslas - Victoria

My next litter is a year away and has been pre-sold, but there are other breeders around if you like the look of them.

hungarian vizslas are awesome dogs, probably look for a pup next year for hunting and lazing around the loungeroom
 
here is a couple of pics of my english staffys
Jada is the white one(most loyal dog ever,brilliant with our kids and very smart)
Kaos is the red one(unfortuantly no longer with us).

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Here's my big girl looking noble. She's purebred rottie (although no papers) and has all of the orthopaedic problems that come with the breed. She's eager to please and trainable, but not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
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Fang the Fluffdog is a crossbreed (shih tzu x maltese) and healthy as anything. He's also the brains of the pair. He constantly outwits the rottie. He's holding a shoe because we were rehearsing for a commercial where he had to fetch a shoe. Despite the flat face, he managed to fetch footwear like a retriever.
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my girl Matilda
 

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@pythonmum your rottie's problems are not too serious I hope? Would she be needing surgery in the near future?
 
@pythonmum your rottie's problems are not too serious I hope? Would she be needing surgery in the near future?
One knee has been rebuilt. The other will eventually need the same, and then there are the hips... She seems to have no sense of pain and was touching her foot down right after the knee surgery. The vet couldn't believe how quickly she recovered. The hard part was keeping her quiet during recovery. She is strong, enthusiastic and runs around like a maniac!
 
Staffies are lovely dogs with people but can sometimes show their breeding in not being the best around other dogs. As Phil said, there is no perfect breed, and you cannot expect to cross and staffy to any other breed to 'breed out' the problems. As Phil said, they have an extra soft tissue in the mouth so have breathing problems. They are also prone to bad skin and allergies. It would take a while to determine was breed would suit you best. When i say breed i mean 'type' so saying a working dog, a herding dog, a gundog or hound, toy, terrier, etc. The preferred size, coat type, temperament, look and trainability.

So;

We have established you would like a well defined dog, more muscled or basically masculine (even if female?) with a short coat (and remember, short coated dogs can still require oodles of brushing and can shed more than some long coated breeds) so how much brushing are you willing to do (a quick once a day after a walk, solid brush and detangling every few days, or more like never?)

Obviously, you want a healthy dog, but are you willing to compromise on health for the sake of the 'look' of the animal eg a bulldog, staffy, bad hips or sharpei ears. Or are you more interested in getting a dog with as little chance of health problems as possible?

Size, this is important. How tall/heavy, etc? some breeds are very tall but weigh quite little (greyhound, belgian shep, borzoi), others are short and heavy (staffy, bulldog, basset hound). Or do you height and weight (mastiff, rotti, wolfhound) or short and fine (cavs, small herding breeds, terriers).

Trainability, staffies are bumb as bricks, simple. Except them to completely forget all training when they see another dog, person, new tree or blade of grass. Herding, guarding and working breeds are all highly trainable. How important is this to you?

Finally, exercise. How much would you like to do with your pet? Staffies/bulldogs etc have breathing problems and therefore need to be kept quiet in hot weather otherwise they overheat and can die easily. Do you want to run for 30mins/an hour a day, or do you want to go for a sedate stroll with your chum for a short while each day? Greyhounds are remarkably lazy creatures and will make do with a short stroll once a day with a short run around at a park in between. Or you could get a terrier, or kelpie, and have it never stop moving...

As you can see it is quite involving but if you make the effort now to make the right decisions you will reward yourself with a great companion for many years to come, as opposed to a poorly suited animal that does not meet your expectations and/ you fail to fulfil its needs.

On the matter of expectations... i had a client come in today with a border collie cross staffy today that told me they need a trainer for it. i asked them what sort of training they thought the dog needed and what they wanted from the dog. owner proceeded to tell me the dog had to be extremely loyal to the children, be friendly with all other people and animals, be exceptionally trained and always obedient and on TOP of all that be a reliable guard dog. i told them they had bought the wrong dog and they needed to re-establish what they truly wanted from the dog in order to be satisfied with their pet. expected a staffy to be an obedience trial dog and great with all dogs is not really going to happen. then to expect a border collie to make an amazing guard dog is also unrealistic (very sooky really).

anyway. think about it, and look into as many breeds as you can. if you answer the above questions we will all be able to recommend breeds that may suit your needs better :) a cross breed may still suit your needs perfectly, you may just need to be pointed in the right sort of direction!
 
our boy Jack the Bullmastiff
 

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One knee has been rebuilt. The other will eventually need the same, and then there are the hips... She seems to have no sense of pain and was touching her foot down right after the knee surgery. The vet couldn't believe how quickly she recovered. The hard part was keeping her quiet during recovery. She is strong, enthusiastic and runs around like a maniac!

Ouch..I didn't know they were THAT bad but I guess she makes up for it in speedy recovery. Hopefully she's all well and good now!
 
Staffies are lovely dogs with people but can sometimes show their breeding in not being the best around other dogs. As Phil said, there is no perfect breed, and you cannot expect to cross and staffy to any other breed to 'breed out' the problems. As Phil said, they have an extra soft tissue in the mouth so have breathing problems. They are also prone to bad skin and allergies. It would take a while to determine was breed would suit you best. When i say breed i mean 'type' so saying a working dog, a herding dog, a gundog or hound, toy, terrier, etc. The preferred size, coat type, temperament, look and trainability.

shooshoo once again I appreciate you helping me in trying to make my decision. Alright I'm gonna try my best to answer all your questions down there and hopefully make out which breed is perfect for me.
So;

We have established you would like a well defined dog, more muscled or basically masculine (even if female?) with a short coat (and remember, short coated dogs can still require oodles of brushing and can shed more than some long coated breeds) so how much brushing are you willing to do (a quick once a day after a walk, solid brush and detangling every few days, or more like never?)

Yes that's true, I just love the look of a muscly looking dog although that is not the utmost importance. Short coat is definitely a must for me and with the brushing, that could be done very easily. I'm not going to be bothered by the fact that I have to brush my dog everyday if it needs to. That's no worries at all. So a quick brush overall once a day for a short coated dog?

Obviously, you want a healthy dog, but are you willing to compromise on health for the sake of the 'look' of the animal eg a bulldog, staffy, bad hips or sharpei ears. Or are you more interested in getting a dog with as little chance of health problems as possible?

I definitely want a healthy animal but also have some of the characteristics that I like in a dog. Not all, but some.

Size, this is important. How tall/heavy, etc? some breeds are very tall but weigh quite little (greyhound, belgian shep, borzoi), others are short and heavy (staffy, bulldog, basset hound). Or do you height and weight (mastiff, rotti, wolfhound) or short and fine (cavs, small herding breeds, terriers).

I would love to have a short/height and heavy built dog (that just reduces my choices drastically right? lol).

Trainability, staffies are bumb as bricks, simple. Except them to completely forget all training when they see another dog, person, new tree or blade of grass. Herding, guarding and working breeds are all highly trainable. How important is this to you?

Okay this is definitely a hard one, for one I wouldn't mind if I can't teach it special skills but on the other hand I wouldn't want it attacking my family or people that are close to me either. If I had a lead when I take it out for a walk I can most definitely stop it from getting to other dogs and attacking them. So I guess from this one all I'm asking for is for it to be good with people but not so crazy that it goes on a dog killing frenzy!

Finally, exercise. How much would you like to do with your pet? Staffies/bulldogs etc have breathing problems and therefore need to be kept quiet in hot weather otherwise they overheat and can die easily. Do you want to run for 30mins/an hour a day, or do you want to go for a sedate stroll with your chum for a short while each day? Greyhounds are remarkably lazy creatures and will make do with a short stroll once a day with a short run around at a park in between. Or you could get a terrier, or kelpie, and have it never stop moving...

I'd definitely have time everyday for a long/short walk around the neighbourhood. I guess that's ONE of many reasons I wanted to get a dog in the first place, for companion while I go out on walks and stuff. So walking daily is a yes for me.

As you can see it is quite involving but if you make the effort now to make the right decisions you will reward yourself with a great companion for many years to come, as opposed to a poorly suited animal that does not meet your expectations and/ you fail to fulfil its needs.

On the matter of expectations... i had a client come in today with a border collie cross staffy today that told me they need a trainer for it. i asked them what sort of training they thought the dog needed and what they wanted from the dog. owner proceeded to tell me the dog had to be extremely loyal to the children, be friendly with all other people and animals, be exceptionally trained and always obedient and on TOP of all that be a reliable guard dog. i told them they had bought the wrong dog and they needed to re-establish what they truly wanted from the dog in order to be satisfied with their pet. expected a staffy to be an obedience trial dog and great with all dogs is not really going to happen. then to expect a border collie to make an amazing guard dog is also unrealistic (very sooky really).

anyway. think about it, and look into as many breeds as you can. if you answer the above questions we will all be able to recommend breeds that may suit your needs better :) a cross breed may still suit your needs perfectly, you may just need to be pointed in the right sort of direction!

Hopefully you're able to point me in the right direction now! lol thanks a lot shooshoo.
 
Easy. Staffy from well bred parents. :) you're not looking for an obedience champ so a smarter breed will only cause angst when needing more mental stimulation like a collie or toy. you will easily find a lovely staffy or staffy cross from a shelter too. if you get a slightly older animal you will get a good idea of its personality, how it is with other animals and from listening to its breathing before, during and after exercise you will be able to get a feel for how its breathing is affected (or not) by the soft tissue in the back of the mouth.
if you do go with a puppy, make sure you SOCIALISE SOCIALISE SOCIALISE it. thats the best way to ensure you end up with an animal that loves everyone, everything and everydog, reducing your management!

bull terriers are very similar, but i would recommend against them simply because they have very thin skin which is often white, and they love to sunbake, so they often get melanomas :(

oh. and prevention is worth a million cures. watch for ANY changes in our animals to catch problems before they get bad. like skin, ears, teeth, ticks, etc. :)
 
might just add. get ahead and read up on parasite prevention and find a combination of products that work for you.

you need;
flea
tick
heartworm
intestinal worms

i use sentinel spectrum for all except ticks, its great for preventing flea infestations as while it doesnt actually kill the fleas it renders them infertile and thus you get no eggs in your environment. use capstar to kill live fleas and proban to control ticks

also;
vaccinations - kennel cough, parvo, distemper, bordatella, hepatitis are your minimum level vaccs. pups need a course of three then one every year
shampoo for sensitive skin - aloveen or any oatmeal based one, ask about malaseb or pyohex at the vets if they develope bad skin
training tools (clickers, halters) - easy to train the right behaviour first rather than fix the wrong behaviour afterwards
good diet - buy the best you can afford. looks for ones with real meat ingredients at the top of the list, you want animal based protein not vegetable. avoid corn and other cereal fillers. also, beef can cause allergies, frozen chicken necks are great addition to diet and for cleaning teeth. sardines make good addition for omega 3's for good skin. give raw egg yolks and DO NOT GIVE RAW EGG WHITES (causes vit d definciency) finally, chocolate, onion, garlic, nuts, and graps are bad for dogs. staffies are great at inhaling food, so make sure its in small pieces so they dont choke!

i could go on forever :( lol
 
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Snakelove, if you like the 'bully' type breeds, they are more likely to have dog aggression issues unless socialised correctly when young. I'm a trainer at my local club and have seen many such dogs that are great with people, but a nightmare around other dogs - especially if a rescue dog. (They are often dumped for aggression.) You can find great rescues. I've had two rotties that were free to good home and Fang the luffdog came from Doggie Rescue. The rottie sheds like mad, the fluffdog doesn't shed at all. If you just want casual walks, do you like the look of a basset hound? The long back can lead to health problems, so do your research and find a good breeder. There are some medium-sized short-coated dogs (pincers, larger terriers), but they are high energy dogs and need lots of exercise.
 
Easy. Staffy from well bred parents. :) you're not looking for an obedience champ so a smarter breed will only cause angst when needing more mental stimulation like a collie or toy. you will easily find a lovely staffy or staffy cross from a shelter too. if you get a slightly older animal you will get a good idea of its personality, how it is with other animals and from listening to its breathing before, during and after exercise you will be able to get a feel for how its breathing is affected (or not) by the soft tissue in the back of the mouth.
if you do go with a puppy, make sure you SOCIALISE SOCIALISE SOCIALISE it. thats the best way to ensure you end up with an animal that loves everyone, everything and everydog, reducing your management!

bull terriers are very similar, but i would recommend against them simply because they have very thin skin which is often white, and they love to sunbake, so they often get melanomas :(

oh. and prevention is worth a million cures. watch for ANY changes in our animals to catch problems before they get bad. like skin, ears, teeth, ticks, etc. :)

Alright awesome, I was hoping you'd say that a staffy is the right one for me. I'm extremely excited haha. I would be looking at a couple of dog pounds and RSPCA before I decide to get a puppy. Definitely going to get it out and socialise with other dogs and people. Whilst we're on this topic, my sister has a smallish dog and I asked her why she doesn't take it for walks outside and she replied saying that it can't yet. That it has to be a bit older for it to be able to go for walks in the parks etc. Is that true? or should you start walking your dog since its a puppy?

might just add. get ahead and read up on parasite prevention and find a combination of products that work for you.

you need;
flea
tick
heartworm
intestinal worms

also;
vaccinations
shampoo for sensitive skin
training tools (clickers, halters)
good diet

What do you reckon is a good diet? I read that a mix of low fat meat + rice and water for when it's an adult. What about when it's a puppy? Is 5 times a day right for a puppy? Or are all these info I read up wrong? haha. Sorry if I'm bombarding you with questions haha.
 
Your sister probably isn't taking her puppy out because it hasn't finished getting its immunisations. The problem with this approach is that the dog misses out on important early socialisation. A well run puppy class at a local dog club or vet surgery is MOST helpful. No dog should be allowed to overwhelm another - they need to be taught to play nicely with others. Public parks are a problem because some diseases can be spread via faeces. This makes vet surgeries (which are regularly disinfected) and private homes better options for socialising. Talk to your vet about an appropriate diet. Start with whatever the puppy has been eating and make a gradual move to your chosen diet. Sudden changes can lead to stomach upsets. I also recommend buying dog meds online to save heaps of money. Be choosy about your puppy - don't pick one that you feel sorry for! Make sure the dog suits you and has the right temperament.
 
Snakelove, if you like the 'bully' type breeds, they are more likely to have dog aggression issues unless socialised correctly when young. I'm a trainer at my local club and have seen many such dogs that are great with people, but a nightmare around other dogs - especially if a rescue dog. (They are often dumped for aggression.) You can find great rescues. I've had two rotties that were free to good home and Fang the luffdog came from Doggie Rescue. The rottie sheds like mad, the fluffdog doesn't shed at all. If you just want casual walks, do you like the look of a basset hound? The long back can lead to health problems, so do your research and find a good breeder. There are some medium-sized short-coated dogs (pincers, larger terriers), but they are high energy dogs and need lots of exercise.

Hey pythonmum, I actually do like the 'bully' type breeds. I would most definitely have it socialise while still young, I have the willingness to work with a dog everyday and am not going to abandon it. I would like to think that I can get a puppy, put in the work and make it not aggressive to other dogs. I think I can deal with the fact that they shed, my family had a chow chow when I was younger and it was beautiful one day and it can be bald the next. I don't know why but a basset hound just doesn't interest me at all, don't get me wrong I love all types of dogs but if I was to take one in the family then it'd definitely have to be a breed that I love.
 
Your sister probably isn't taking her puppy out because it hasn't finished getting its immunisations. The problem with this approach is that the dog misses out on important early socialisation. A well run puppy class at a local dog club or vet surgery is MOST helpful. No dog should be allowed to overwhelm another - they need to be taught to play nicely with others. Public parks are a problem because some diseases can be spread via faeces. This makes vet surgeries (which are regularly disinfected) and private homes better options for socialising. Talk to your vet about an appropriate diet. Start with whatever the puppy has been eating and make a gradual move to your chosen diet. Sudden changes can lead to stomach upsets. I also recommend buying dog meds online to save heaps of money. Be choosy about your puppy - don't pick one that you feel sorry for! Make sure the dog suits you and has the right temperament.

Oh, so if I was getting a puppy then I'd have to get the immunisations early on or would the breeder get that taken care of before I purchase it and take it home? I've got a great vet nearby and it's definitely the one I'm sticking to. Yeap, I know about the need to gradually change their diets and their upset stomachs. I'm going to be so choosy about the puppy and I think it's best if I don't bring my gf with me otherwise she'd want to take them all home!
 
this is my pup decka named after the thai boxing legend ramon dekkers.....he is a kelpi X....he is my pride and joy and prob out smarts meGetAttachment.jpg
 
The breeder should should have started the immunisations, or the shelter will have done so. The series takes a couple of months, so the dog has only partial protection when young. It's great that you have a vet nearby for good care and advice. If you pick the right pup and do the socialising, you will have a great pet.
 
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