Dan40D
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No, i remember getting it on email a few years back, so i found it on the net.
woolworths wildlife.
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Wally
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That's one way to get a Jungle into WA.
blueyman
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yeah when my dad used to work at woolies he used to find all sorts of things.
one day i came home and got a rhino beetle.
he said that he has found some green tree frogs and one of the people that worked there with him found a snake.
one day i came home and got a rhino beetle.
he said that he has found some green tree frogs and one of the people that worked there with him found a snake.
killimike
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All these exciting animals in people's fruit and veg! The most exciting thing I have ever found was aphids.... I gotta start shopping somewhere with more wildlife in the food!
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hahahah how amazing just finding a fantastic lil frog like that in some buck choy!
u are a very lucky person
u are a very lucky person
Oh look a prize!!
Sel
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We get Dainty Tree Frogs sometimes in the Bananas.
Haha thats true, but it got the jab by DEC even though it was given to a wildlife park...
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Bluetongue1
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It could be the Dwarf Eastern Tree-frog (Litoria fallax) or the Dwarf Northern Tree-frog (Litoria bicolour). I would lean towards the second option but??? You didn’t happen to notice if the groin and backs of the thighs were yellow or were orange did you?
As for genetic pollution, with a single animal its genes would all but disappear within a few generations. Before you start howling me down on that one I suggest you try doing a few simple calculations and take into account that with a new arrival in an established population and normal dispersal and mortalities rates operating, the likelihood of inbreeding is miniscule i.e. small enough to be ignored.
Unfortunately Queensland does not have an organisation that will take displaced frogs and re-home them. So in the future, should it happen again, the best I could suggest is to get in touch with a Wildlife Carer or contact JCU and ask to speak to one of their frog experts. They have been at the forefront of research on the frog chytrid fungus and may be able to help.
I would be too concerned about having possibly spread the disease to a new area. The disease is endemic along the wetter coastal and upland areas of Queensland. Cane toads are a vector as well. Interestingly the Qld variety of the causative fungus prefers fast flowing, highly oxygenated waters and is more virulent than that found in SW WA, which prefers stiller waters. They think the Qld form originated in South America and the WA form from South Africa. Although both the above species of Litoria have been known to contract the disease, their preferred habitats are foliage adjacent to still or slow flowing water, including flood irrigated bananas. So while I would not recommend releasing the frog, it is probably odds on that it was not infected.
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As for genetic pollution, with a single animal its genes would all but disappear within a few generations. Before you start howling me down on that one I suggest you try doing a few simple calculations and take into account that with a new arrival in an established population and normal dispersal and mortalities rates operating, the likelihood of inbreeding is miniscule i.e. small enough to be ignored.
Unfortunately Queensland does not have an organisation that will take displaced frogs and re-home them. So in the future, should it happen again, the best I could suggest is to get in touch with a Wildlife Carer or contact JCU and ask to speak to one of their frog experts. They have been at the forefront of research on the frog chytrid fungus and may be able to help.
I would be too concerned about having possibly spread the disease to a new area. The disease is endemic along the wetter coastal and upland areas of Queensland. Cane toads are a vector as well. Interestingly the Qld variety of the causative fungus prefers fast flowing, highly oxygenated waters and is more virulent than that found in SW WA, which prefers stiller waters. They think the Qld form originated in South America and the WA form from South Africa. Although both the above species of Litoria have been known to contract the disease, their preferred habitats are foliage adjacent to still or slow flowing water, including flood irrigated bananas. So while I would not recommend releasing the frog, it is probably odds on that it was not infected.
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GeckPhotographer
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Ok I was not aware that Qld did not have an organisation like this, as most states do. I was not by the way pushing the genetics issue but just pointing it out and agree it would have little to know effect.
JCU at the forefront of chytrid research in Australia.... I am sure JCU has done plenty of work, and found plenty of stuff but can you show they are truly the leaders in Australia. Plenty of work has come out of Newcastle and Sydney Universities as well.
Tinky
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SOFAR in Newcastle specialise in rescuing 'banana box' frogs, (those found at the local fruit and veg wholesale markets).
As many have said, they cannot be released back into the wild population, so if you are interested in saving a frog, then give us a call.
(. . . . and you just thought we ran an amazing expo).
As many have said, they cannot be released back into the wild population, so if you are interested in saving a frog, then give us a call.
(. . . . and you just thought we ran an amazing expo).
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Bluetongue1
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You are reading way too much into a few simple sentences. With respect to the genetics I explained why it was “a minor concern”. I used the past tense “have been” in referring to JCU as I have not followed their research in recent years. The term “at the forefront of” does not exclude others from also being at the forefront, as well, which is why I used that particular phrase. There is no way I would use the term “leader”, as explained in the last paragraph.
I chose JCU as the man lives in Townsville. It is an academic institution that has a thorough knowledge and understanding of the fungus, it’s local prevalence, species most affected and no doubt other influential local parameters. Therefore it would be well placed to provide the most appropriate course of action to take with a displaced frog. That has nothing to do with where I or others might consider it placed interms of its relative output from research on the fungus.
I would advise you exercise care before embroiling yourself in a debate about “the leader” in any given research. Evaluating research output, its volume and its value is heavily based on value judgments, especially where collaboration between such institutions exists with respect to a specific research area, ever-so more common these days. For example, in the area we were discussing, the University of Adelaide and the Western Australian Museum have also made very significant contributions.
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hi all, just new to AP&S awesome site. Always loved reptiles, the most pleasure i get (besides my reps health) is getting people who hate or are scared of reptiles to hold them or watch them and see they are actually smart and have feelings like us! Ok i drifted from the topic sorry. I work for a Woolworths DC in Sydney and we sometimes have reptiles from all over AUS come to our DC. We have a few workers who are also snake handlers or rept breeders on site who ensure the certain rept either gets back to where it came from or is taken to a zoo or other breeders. They usually come in the banana pallets from QLD (which must be gassed before being distributed) :-( , my point might not mean nothing but i thought i might add something to this thread.
hi all, just new to AP&S awesome site. Always loved reptiles, the most pleasure i get (besides my reps health) is getting people who hate or are scared of reptiles to hold them or watch them and see they are actually smart and have feelings like us! Ok i drifted from the topic sorry. I work for a Woolworths DC in Sydney and we sometimes have reptiles from all over AUS come to our DC. We have a few workers who are also snake handlers or rept breeders on site who ensure the certain rept either gets back to where it came from or is taken to a zoo or other breeders. They usually come in the banana pallets from QLD (which must be gassed before being distributed) :-( , my point might not mean nothing but i thought i might add something to this thread.
hi all, just new to AP&S awesome site. Always loved reptiles, the most pleasure i get (besides my reps health) is getting people who hate or are scared of reptiles to hold them or watch them and see they are actually smart and have feelings like us! Ok i drifted from the topic sorry. I work for a Woolworths DC in Sydney and we sometimes have reptiles from all over AUS come to our DC. We have a few workers who are also snake handlers or rept breeders on site who ensure the certain rept either gets back to where it came from or is taken to a zoo or other breeders. They usually come in the banana pallets from QLD (which must be gassed before being distributed) :-( , my point might not mean nothing but i thought i might add something to this thread.
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GeckPhotographer
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Perhaps I read to much into because you used the word forefront, which really does mean leader or most important person in regard to whatever it is describing. Thus it does exclude other people who are not collaborating in equal share with anyone you call at the forefront from being at the forefront.
I agree fully that I would have trouble for the reasons given and because of my own bias in debating who is the leader in this research, and am not trying to do so. What I am saying is that you have said who the leader is or as you correct me who the leader was in the past, and that are thus entering that debate without justifying the position on that previous leader. If you simply meant to say JCU has researched chytrid, and misused the word forefront than ok I can agree with you but otherwise it appears you are doing exactly what you have just said not too.
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There is an error in what I wrote in as much as I omitted "the" and the quotation should have been "the leader". I would have been happy to use the term "a leader".
The point you have singled out is not at all relevant to the advice given. I am aware of the comparative contributions made by JCU and Sydney Uni. in the time period to which I referred. So perhaps it should be up to you to check the facts. Write to Rick Shine and ask him for his evaluation of Rick Speare and team's contribution to amphibian chytrid fungus research and whether he would say they were ever at the forefront.
If you are going to argue semantics at least check the dictionary first. Forefront relates to a position and not a person. It does not mean the same as foremost. Obviously, in this context the position is not a physical one. That position can be one of prominence, responsibility or action. As the word indicates this is the lead or most important of these positions. Now I really don’t mind which single or amalgam of these given meanings you choose to take out of my usage of the term. These positions do not intrinsically exclude them being occupied by more than one entity, as does, for example foremost. I have explained my use of the term as thoroughly as possible using the oxford and Collins dictionary. You now should clearly understand my intent even if you still disagree with the definition of the word.
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The point you have singled out is not at all relevant to the advice given. I am aware of the comparative contributions made by JCU and Sydney Uni. in the time period to which I referred. So perhaps it should be up to you to check the facts. Write to Rick Shine and ask him for his evaluation of Rick Speare and team's contribution to amphibian chytrid fungus research and whether he would say they were ever at the forefront.
If you are going to argue semantics at least check the dictionary first. Forefront relates to a position and not a person. It does not mean the same as foremost. Obviously, in this context the position is not a physical one. That position can be one of prominence, responsibility or action. As the word indicates this is the lead or most important of these positions. Now I really don’t mind which single or amalgam of these given meanings you choose to take out of my usage of the term. These positions do not intrinsically exclude them being occupied by more than one entity, as does, for example foremost. I have explained my use of the term as thoroughly as possible using the oxford and Collins dictionary. You now should clearly understand my intent even if you still disagree with the definition of the word.
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