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Jeez Gordo, I'd hate to see what would happen if you DID comment :lol: :shock:
 
WOW..best of wishes to your friend m8...But i Noticed the media dont mention he was "under the influence of alcohol"..the way it reads is typical society against the snakes again...sigh..now some idiot in parliment will get on a high horse.. 7 bites in a week bla bla..and then here comes the .."people shouldnt have elapids police"
 
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Having been bitten [on the hand] by an EB l can tell you the next [5] days aren't going to be fun.....best wishes solar 17 [Baden]........ps the one that got me was under a friends tank stand and l didn't even see it [till it was too late].......
 
I'm not goona comment on this situation but i will make a broad general sort of idea. I think alot of the torso face bites from captive snakes are more likely to be suicide attempts than accidents.

subtle gorod subtle ... but often true which is sad.


Hope he pulls through
 
Anyone read the article in Scales and Tails about Bob Witheys Tiger Snake bite. That article and this bite are good reminders for us venomous keepers to be vigil when dealing with Elapids.

Also good for potential venomous keepers to get a real understanding for the pitfalls of becoming complacent when dealing with Elapids.
 
subtle gorod subtle ... but often true which is sad.


Hope he pulls through

I was in a rush and worded that poorly. I don't know anything about this situation other than what i've read in this thread. I do know of other bites from captive snakes that were anything other than accidents and they have all been on the torso.

What i think i'm saying is that bites like these, where the story sounds a bit off, probably need friends and family to do a little bit of careful investigation into what is going on in the life of the person involved.
 
UPDATE

I was checking his progress over the phone and at lunchtime was told that when he came to, he ripped the tubes outa himself and then discharged himself. He must be feelin ok, I have tried to catch up with him but had no success. Having said that he was seen walking up the street by his neighbour. Lucky I guess.
 
UPDATE

I was checking his progress over the phone and at lunchtime was told that when he came to, he ripped the tubes outa himself and then discharged himself. He must be feelin ok, I have tried to catch up with him but had no success. Having said that he was seen walking up the street by his neighbour. Lucky I guess.

sounds like a genius!
 
Further update

Just got a call from the neighbour who was chattin to my mate on the front lawn.
He's feelin a bit sore on the face and in the head. Plus also acheing around the chest... they had to restart him twice. Not sure if I'd be anywhere but in a hospital bed if it was me.
 
Garthy,

Get on to your mate and get him back to hospital...

The problem he is in very real danger is risking a Cerebral Haemorrage.....I would be getting your mate back to hospital very quickly...Pseudonaja envenomations usually cause death in people this way as opposed to the effects from Neurotoxins.

Alcohol and snakes don't mix, I hope he pulls through because he is far from out of the woods yet, no matter how he apparently feels.

Cheers,
Scott Eipper
 
Garthy,

Get on to your mate and get him back to hospital...

The problem he is in very real danger is risking a Cerebral Haemorrage.....I would be getting your mate back to hospital very quickly...Pseudonaja envenomations usually cause death in people this way as opposed to the effects from Neurotoxins.

Alcohol and snakes don't mix, I hope he pulls through because he is far from out of the woods yet, no matter how he apparently feels.

Cheers,
Scott Eipper
I fully apreciate what you are saying, but if you take his previous actions into accaount, do you really think he is going to go back? He left his mobile at the hospital so I cant even keep in touch. I will call around before work tomorrow, I hope he's ok till then. To be honest he demanded as he went down (fitting) not to call an ambo. It was my father in law (neighbour) who found him unconscious on the floor with his drinking buddy still saying not to call the ambos. What do you do?
 
my mate checked himself out of hospital against the doctors advice after a RBB bite ( he said he was feeling fine).

his brothers girlfriend found him passed out on his back stairs hours later.

not smart :rolleyes:


donks
 
Garthy,

I understand what you are saying, do you know anyone who he looks up to??? maybe get them to ring him and get them to explain the gravity of the situation.

His actions or this this case inactions if it goes pear shaped could seriously impact the legality for people to keep venomous snakes privately, if someone felt that NPWS (and I am not saying they are responsible) were somewhat responsible for the actions of the keepers they licence (after all they are issuing a permit) and get sued.....what do think will happen to private elapid keepers???

Cheers,
Scott
 
I have found quite a few keepers with that attitude toward hospitals and discharging themselves. Another one thats common is its only a minor scratch She'll be right. For the risks involved in elapid keeping there seems to be quite a few very casual individuals generally speaking
 
certainly doesn't sound like the human gene pool would actually suffer much of a loss if this bloke doesn't wake up tomorrow morning and I certainly don't think the herp world would be any worse off if idiots like this never kept a venemous snake again.
Reminds me of that bloke up in Nth Qld a few years ago who used to like getting his fierce snakes out for a play each time he was drunk. His name escapes me but it would be a miracle if he's still alive
 
he is a very strong minded person, has been since I became friends with him 22 yrs ago but you know how it goes... separate after school, catch up 10yrs later... the odd re-aquaintance etc. you all know what some herpers can be like.... they know best.
Me? I am all for self preservation and will take no unnecessary risks, ven or non ven.
I will do my best, might even try to shoot around there now actually.
 
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