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I look at JAGS as a typical blonde with a nice ra*k... Even if they arent too smart, they look friken amazing. So... I will go for them :)

And Wow im excited to find out if this new trait is genetic... very very cool!!!
 
people that do have breeding projects want to know what they are getting. i think the main problem is they are put on your license as darwins when it has jungle in it and in three generations time its hard to tell. if you buy a hi yellow darwin that has jungle in it, it muddies out and its a big waste of effort when this happens. DEC need to change the record books
 
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Can we maybe not turn this into an argument that gets the thread closed? I'd love to see any new photos D3 puts up and I'll be interested in updates but all this bickering is getting people nowhere
 
Can we maybe not turn this into an argument that gets the thread closed? I'd love to see any new photos D3 puts up and I'll be interested in updates but all this bickering is getting people nowhere
Cant make them things look any better....
 
Haha maybe not to you Cockney but some people like them and nobody is forcing you to buy one.
These poor guys have only just hatched. What's it gonna be like when they hit the market??
 
HAHA....what a load of old cobblers...the pro pures are the only ones giving arguments, that are based on keeping healthy animals, for pleasure, and not for profit or big noting.....

Not for profit? You cannot be serious! Sorry Ad, gotta use your for sale threads as examples:

http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/sale-snakes-43/boyds-dragons-sale-64113/
http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/sale-snakes-43/julatten-b-ws-96748/

That takes care of that. On to big noting. Answered with "Tall Poppy Syndrome". Whoever owns these animals won't even reveal themselves, pretty hard to big note yourself when no-one has any idea who you are. Finally, healthy animals. Hybrid vigour. While it technically doesn't apply here, it is close enough to cover the point. As far as jags and neuro goes, I have one, he's a bit unco, but based on my FIRST HAND experience with him and animals all of my life, he certainly doesn't display any of the traits attributed to animals in physical distress. Yes, ALL animals display certain behaviours when in phyisical pain or discomfort, not the least of which being a hostile aversion to human interaction. Hey, who am I to go and use first hand experience as an example, should have said "Thag hate jags...grrr!"
 
Haha maybe not to you Cockney but some people like them and nobody is forcing you to buy one.
These poor guys have only just hatched. What's it gonna be like when they hit the market??
Chaos, when I want to buy another snake in a few years time I do not want any gene that has the potential to affect the wellbeing of the snake.
 
Not for profit? You cannot be serious! Sorry Ad, gotta use your for sale threads as examples:

http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/sale-snakes-43/boyds-dragons-sale-64113/
http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/sale-snakes-43/julatten-b-ws-96748/

That takes care of that. On to big noting. Answered with "Tall Poppy Syndrome". Whoever owns these animals won't even reveal themselves, pretty hard to big note yourself when no-one has any idea who you are. Finally, healthy animals. Hybrid vigour. While it technically doesn't apply here, it is close enough to cover the point. As far as jags and neuro goes, I have one, he's a bit unco, but based on my FIRST HAND experience with him and animals all of my life, he certainly doesn't display any of the traits attributed to animals in physical distress. Yes, ALL animals display certain behaviours when in phyisical pain or discomfort, not the least of which being a hostile aversion to human interaction. Hey, who am I to go and use first hand experience as an example, should have said "Thag hate jags...grrr!"
Same old cobblers trotted out to justify same old greed
 
Ash, I wait with bated breath for the requested logical, valid arguments, but it would appear none are forthcoming at this point. I must teach myself to fling emotion filled excrement I guess. :D
Again refer to post# 104 :)...................everything pro has been said, you just refuse to hear it :)...nite nite
 
I really like these and I I'd have one. Do people not want to see the hobby progress? Hard to make assumptions when the parent lineage has'nt even been established. D3Pro, good on ya for posting the pics, breaks the monotoney! And good luck to the breeder.
 
why must everyone argue. it's christmas time. peace and goodwill to all men (and women)
 
Again refer to post# 104 :)...................everything pro has been said, you just refuse to hear it :)...nite nite

It is possible that I am just incapable of "hearing it". When I re-read your response, all I saw was the herp world equivalent of "If you like jags, then Al-quaeda wins". It may be a regional thing, I don't know what an "old cobbler" is, perhaps that is where the flesh of your argument lies? If so, that's why I don't get it. If you could add some fact, or first hand experience to the debate, I may then be able to "hear it".

Sorry to flood the forums mods, I smell an infraction coming my way.
 
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HAHA....what a load of old cobblers...the pro pures are the only ones giving arguments, that are based on keeping healthy animals, for pleasure, and not for profit or big noting.....

So are you saying every JAG owner is just in it for the money and they do not enjoy or experience pleasure in keeping these animals? That they are in it for only profit?

I do not own JAGs for the record :)
 
It is possible that I am just incapable of "hearing it". When I re-read your response, all I saw was the herp world equivalent of "If you like jags, then Al-quaeda wins". It may be a regional thing, I don't know what a "horse cobbler" is, perhaps that is where the flesh of your argument lies? If so, that's why I don't get it. If you could add some fact, or first hand experience to the debate, I may then be able to "hear it".

Sorry to flood the forums mods, I smell an infraction coming my way.


I think the main issue I can see is down the road when some poor sap shells out big bucks for what they think it a pure line of reptile with no mix breeding in it and they get a mongrel mix. I think in 10-15 years the market will change and people will be looking for animals with pure lineage. Each to their own if they want to hybridise and cross breed.... there's always going to be Lovers and haters on subjects, it's what makes people human.
 
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