SIM tubs

[Colin]

Hi nicole, I have a question: I assume those triangular bars that you see on top of the grid (eggs stabilizer bars) can be moved for different egg sizes? and could be possibly taken out altogether so a clutch of eggs that has adhered together could be placed in one clump inside the SIM container? I know that you can pull the eggs apart etc but wondering if the SIM's are suitable for a clump of eggs as well as single eggs lined up in the stabilizer bars? Or is the space from the grid to the container roof not high enough to cope with some clutch clumps?

these tubs look great and and very professional. I'd be interested in checking out some of the bigger ones when you have them in stock. cheers

 

[solar 17]

Clumped eggs

To back-up "colin" what about this clump of eggs l got yesterday, now l don,t like taking them apart l have been incubating on water for about ten years or so but what about the size of your containers...cheers solar 17 [Baden]...[38 eggs]

 

[wokka]

We do the same. Just chose a container thats fits the eggs and put it in one a bit larger with some moisure in it. In this case a $2 Golo tub inside a $3 golo tub equals 100% hatch rate.

 

[dickyknee]

Hi nicole, I have a question: I assume those triangular bars that you see on top of the grid (eggs stabilizer bars) can be moved for different egg sizes? and could be possibly taken out altogether so a clutch of eggs that has adhered together could be placed in one clump inside the SIM container? I know that you can pull the eggs apart etc but wondering if the SIM's are suitable for a clump of eggs as well as single eggs lined up in the stabilizer bars? Or is the space from the grid to the container roof not high enough to cope with some clutch clumps?

these tubs look great and and very professional. I'd be interested in checking out some of the bigger ones when you have them in stock. cheers

Colin , the little supports do come out very easily , giving the top a flat surface for a clump to sit on .
The only issue IMO will be the height , the tray does sit fairly high in the tub so any thing to high wont fit to well .
I think Fay had a small clump of childreni eggs that was to high for the tub , making it kinda useless for the job IMO .

 

[CarpetPythons.com.au]

Those tubs were designed for lizard eggs. The python tub is in the process of being manufactured. We chose to use the smaller tubs for python eggs as that is what we specialize in, there was no data available for hatching python eggs in these tubs. Sure you can use cheap tubs and get the same results. I just like being able to put a glass of water in the base of these, stick your eggs in and shove them in the incubator! Being clear also means you dont have to open the tub up the whole time to see if the eggs are ok. I have had very good feedback about these tubs so far.

 

[dickyknee]

CP is there any reason why my lid seems to be going yellow , it is a different material the tub , should i be at all concerned about the longevity of the lid ??

 

[Colin]

Colin , the little supports do come out very easily , giving the top a flat surface for a clump to sit on . The only issue IMO will be the height , the tray does sit fairly high in the tub so any thing to high wont fit to well . I think Fay had a small clump of childreni eggs that was to high for the tub , making it kinda useless for the job IMO .

thanks brett.. I was wondering about that as a lot of people prefer to leave their eggs in a clump rather than seperate them.
they definitely look great and very professionally made. I might have to grab a couple myself I think..

 

[CarpetPythons.com.au]

The lid is slightly different in colour to the rest of the tub. It is made from a different type of plastic.

 

[stuartandconnie]

What's nice , the eggs , the tubs , the fact i took pics ??

ur funny

 

[andyscott]

Have you pushed the lid down hard? How much water have you got in the base? One cup should be enough. Have you got a hygrometer in the tub to measure the humidity? Of course it builds up humidity, it's a closed system. Could be the eggs were not fertile, no matter how hard you try then, they won't hatch!

The lid was/is pushed down hard,
I have the water not quite up to the fill line (about 2.5 cups).
The humidity is at 99%.
All the eggs were candled and were fertile

Im just used to seeing some condensation build up in the egg tub.
These tubs dont get any beadlets of water on the sides or even fog up in the slightest.
Even though it says it 99% humidity in there, they just seem dry.

Anyway, we will find out in another 20 to 25 days (give or take).
Cheers Andy

 

[Johnantny]

Hello, I am John, co-designer and producer of the SIM containers. I have been asked on occasion what's the lid made of, and how does it differ from the base material. The lid is TPU- Thermo Plastic Polyurethane. Its a versatile plastic that was the best choice for the SIM because it was flexible and as clear colored as possible. The rest of the SIM including the grid and rails are Poly Carbonate. There should not be much discoloration to the lid. It should remain clear if not, slightly off a grey tone. Either way, its should allow you to see through it, to view your eggs (unless condensation is blurring them).

Another call-out I have received is the lid. If it arrives crooked or bent in the mail, this can be fixed by heating the lid in the kitchen microwave for 15 seconds to "mush" it up. Once it it returned to the SIM and pressed in place, it will retain its proper shape.

Good to see the product in use there in Australia. I have Kimbereley Rock Monitor eggs in my SIM now, and Ackie eggs due ay day.

Stay tuned to the bigger version coming soon.

Cheers,

John

 

[PremierPythons]

Andy,

All of the clutches I've had in them so far have definitely built up condensation inside the container - especially on the sides and a lighter mist on the lid. Maybe moisture is somehow escaping your particular container?

PP

 

[bkevo]

andy, how are those eggs going?
and anyone else any more feedback on these SIM containers???

 

[itbites]

We've had major issues with the condensation accumulating in the tubs...

To counter that we've needed to put some paper towel just under the lids before closing them.

That worked a treat & all the remaining eggs have now plumped back up

& seem to be developing quite well. I'm not saying it's a tub issue it may be the incubator itself?

Or it may be some totally different factor all together.

Either way the little plastic dividers are a great idea (especially for people with all thumbs )

 

[bkevo]

i just had a look at carpetpython.com.au website and on the main page. on the left the incubator has sistemer tubs with the blue clips..?

 

[CarpetPythons.com.au]

I use the sistema tubs for my hatchlings to have their first shed in. You only need about a cup of water in these tubs. No more.

 

[CarpetPythons.com.au]

Itbites: I have found that fluctuations in the temperature of the incubator to cause a lot more condensation inside the tub.

 

[andyscott]

andy, how are those eggs going?
and anyone else any more feedback on these SIM containers???

As Kristy (itbites) said, 7 of the 16 eggs have died due to lack of humidity, the other 9 are fine due to laying a dry sheet of paper towl over the tub, then a moist sheet on top of the dry one and placing the lid on tight.
My female Frilly double clutched (layed again on the 26th of Dec), so I have a 2nd SIM tub going with 14 more fertile eggs in it.
Im using the paper towl over this lot from the start and all 14 are looking great atm.
Cheers Andy.

 

[CarpetPythons.com.au]

Hi Andy. How can you say it was a lack of humidity in the tub that caused the egg death? Your hygrometer read 99% all the way. I suggest you take out some water and only use about 250ml of water. I have had no problems with condensation since I reduced the amount of water. I even have less water in some of my tubs. The good thing is that you can see how much water is left and top it up. I will try to explain how temperature fluctuations cause condensation in an incubator. Air can absorb more water at high temperatures. If the temperature drops in the incubator then water gets forced out of the air as it can not contain the same amount of water at a lower temperature if the volume of the container stays the same. Thermostats cause this fluctuation to maintain the correct temperature. I also find that standard domestic fridges have less condensation than commercial fridges. I think this has to do with the fact that heat is lost a lot quicker through glass than a solid object. My tubs seem to get a lot more condensation on the side where my commercial fridges glass are.

 

[wokka]

I once had problems with condenstaion and solved it by sloping the egg containers by jacking up one edge. Any condensation then ran to the edge and down the sides instead of dripping on to the egg.
The long term solution was controling the temp in the incubator better to avoid temp flucuations. I use 3 door coke fridges and one heat cord was not enough to keep the temperature stable if , say the door was opened. I now have the incubator room air conditioned at 28c and the incubators run with three x 60 watt cords on pulse proportional thermostats. The incubators themselves are humidified at about 70-80% and all seems fine.