Air rifles!!!

[Mayhem]

Now that question leads into a million answers....a gun is only as accurate as the shooter. Having said that, it'll be all you need matey for what you want to do....and that's have some fun.
Learn from that little rifle and once you get your eye in and know how to shoot safe, then move up.....small steps champ....then maybe just maybe, you'll grow up and be CRAZY like Mayhem..... :lol::lol:

lol I'm not crazy, just ask the voices in my head

 

[Southside Morelia]

lol

lol I'm not crazy, just ask the voices in my head

 

[bulionz]

hahahaha gesss you guys r funny

well ok then well i was pritty accurate with an air gun when i went to cooma a few years bak lol well practice makes perfect

well still idn about the license still am i old enough to have my own or do i get me mum to do it
but will i get in trouble for using it,if any1s dops me in or anytjhing

 

[sacred_DUC]

Bankstown Gun Shop

scope plenty stalking practice equal can i say a thrill when stalking them to range and firing a successful shot

 

[bulionz]

lol yeah well ive always been against hunting but it seems so fun idn what im gonna do but even if i dont kill rabbits i can always just target practice but im pritty sure im gonna hunt them

 

[Mayhem]

I dont like hunting either, killing animals for no good reason doesn't gel with me at all, but I do like knowing that I have the hardware and the proven skill now to reach out and touch someone at 1500m if it was ever required

 

[cris]

You can get a licence that allows you to use a gun but you need to be 18 to own them. I would recomend a rimfire for rabbits although a high powered air rifle is certainly up to the task if you get within 30-40m and are a good shot. A savage .22 is good value and accurate enough to kill rabbits humanely up to about 100m.

fook that, if I lived on 100 acres, I'd apply for a rural shooters licence (otherwise known as "Primary Production" - which means you can legally purchase and own military style, semi automatic assault rifles of up to .50cal (Primary Production - Either the owner, lessee or manager of land used for the business of Primary Production)

This means you could own a .223 (effectively a 5.56 NATO round) Civilian Purpose (Usually a factory semi auto) Steyr AUG, or an AR-15 or any number of other super cool guns that our over reactive government has otherwise labeled as illegal for most Australian citizens.

In NSW, you can specifically own a cat A, B or C rifle on this permit, with the cat C being the fun stuff - 10 round mag, self loading, centrefire.
It specifically does not allow "Rifles adapted for Military Purposes" - however, this doesn't stop you from owning the "De-Milled" civilian release models of these guns.
Essentially, they are the same weapon in every way shape and form, but they differ in being listed as a civie round spec rather than the NATO round, as mentioned above in relation to the Steyr. Also the Civie release Steyr is factory Semi Auto not full auto.


A mate of mine bought a big piece of land out west just so he could get this licence... bit of a gun nut hahaha

Gun City - Products - GUNCITY, GUN CITY, GUN SHOP, christchurch, rifle, shotgun, ... these are all examples of what would come under a NSW Cat C licence as described by the NSW Police firearms licencing site.

As you can see, there are some very "military" looking weapons there, but they do not breach the rules of Cat C, because they are purpose built, factory released as civilian release models of the well known military rifle, not an "adapted (modified) military rifle"

Im pretty sure this is mostly wrong, semi auto centerfire rifles are cat D and you need to give a good reason why you need it, having the land isnt good enough on its own. You need to provide a good reason and in Qld you have to renew it every year.

I couldnt be bothered reading the legislation but here it is for anyone interested.

NSW Legislation)))

NSW Legislation)))

 

[Mayhem]

Im pretty sure this is mostly wrong, semi auto centerfire rifles are cat D and you need to give a good reason why you need it, having the land isnt good enough on its own. You need to provide a good reason and in Qld you have to renew it every year.

From NSW Weapons Licencing website:

Occupational - Primary Production & Rural Purpose

Applying for a Firearms Licence

The following is further information about applying for this specific licence type in addition to what is provided in “Obtaining a new licence”.

It is important you refer to both the general steps in applying for a licence and the further information provided here.

This will ensure all necessary information is provided in your application.

Occupational - Primary Production on rural lands (categories A, B, C, D)

A person may apply for this genuine reason if they require possession and use of firearms as part of their duties as a primary producer on rural lands.





So, Cat D is actually covered anyway.

 

[Mayhem]

More on the Cat C and D licences and the restrictions on each even with a Primary Producers licence:

For category C firearm in addition you must provide the following:

Proof that you have a significant feral animal/vermin infestation problem on your property and other methods of eradication such as use of category A and B firearm or baiting have proven unsuccessful. (Section 2 of the Occupational rural purposes annexure pertains to this and must be duly completed as per requirements);
Details of any other category C licence holders on the property;
If you are an employee, your employer must provide details of your employment and your need to use firearms on their property; and
This annexure must be signed and dated by the property owner within 12 months preceding the lodgement of your application.
These types of licences are usually restricted to 1 category C licence.

For category D firearm in addition, you must provide the following:

Proof that you have a significant feral animal/vermin infestation problem on your property and other methods of eradication of these issues such as baiting have proven unsuccessful. (Section 2 of the occupational rural purposes annexure pertains to this and must be duly completed as per requirements);
An occupational rural purposes annexure that is signed and dated within 12 months preceding the lodgement of your application;
Details of any other category D licence holders on the property;
The proposed area of use; and
If you are an employee, your employer must provide details of your employment and your need to use firearms on their property.
These types of licences are usually restricted to 1 category D licence per property. This licence is issued for a maximum term of 1 year. As a licensee it is a requirement to justify the need to hold/continue to hold a category D licence each year on renewal.

 

[cris]

Yeah thats what i was thinking, a lot more hoops to jump through than your orignal post suggested, that said i would be jumping through them pretty quick if i was lucky enough to have some land.

 

[Mayhem]

yeh, I was being pretty simple in the first post, but as you've said, the hoops need to be jumped, but if you play your cards right and twist and bend it as you require, its not that difficult

 

[cris]

lol yeah well ive always been against hunting but it seems so fun idn what im gonna do but even if i dont kill rabbits i can always just target practice but im pritty sure im gonna hunt them

Hunting is good fun, nothing wrong with killing stuff if there is a good reason. Just learn to shoot before you start hunting so you get humane kills. Rabbits are destructive pests and good food.

 

[Mayhem]

Hunting is good fun, nothing wrong with killing stuff if there is a good reason. Just learn to shoot before you start hunting so you get humane kills. Rabbits are destructive pests and good food.

agreed... ferral animals are fair game in my books, providing they are killed quickly and humanely.

 

[bulionz]

yeah i will thanks chris im gonna see if my nieghbor will teach me he travils the world to hunt

 

[Serpentes]

"Dear Authorities, I have 100 mad bulls with especially thick skulls which run away when I am within 500m. I can often see them in the distance within clear range of a higher powered rifle, however my current firearm is unable to cull humanely from such a distance. As such I require consideration for a Class C firearm, specifically to ensure that culling of feral cattle is economically viable and conducted humanely. Moreover, these wild cattle are causing significant economic and environmental damage within my property boundaries, and require immediate control."
Should do the trick


Bulionz, there's nothing better than sitting down to eat your own prepared meat, with the bonus of knowing you've contributed to an environmental solution.

 

[bulionz]

hahahaha yeah could do

what do i say that we just want the 22. for shooting the rabbits

 

[bulionz]

o and serpent we have 105 cows lol only 1 bull tho o and calfs but some aint bulls yet

 

[Mayhem]

"Dear Authorities, I have 100 mad bulls with especially thick skulls which run away when I am within 500m. I can often see them in the distance within clear range of a higher powered rifle, however my current firearm is unable to cull humanely from such a distance. As such I require consideration for a Class C firearm, specifically to ensure that culling of feral cattle is economically viable and conducted humanely. Moreover, these wild cattle are causing significant economic and environmental damage within my property boundaries, and require immediate control."
Should do the trick

LoL, I'd probably change "mad bulls with thick skulls" for something a little more believable, like Yowies with armor plated fur or Chupacabra with nuclear forcefields. I mean common' who really has mad bulls in their backyard??? lol


And lets cut to the chase here - what government official in their right bloody mind is going to deny you access to the required firearms in the face of El Chupacabra!?!?!?!?!?

 

[Jungletrans]

Untill you can get a gun , a ferret or two and some nets are more efective on rabbits . As long as you dont mind necking them it is a fun way to hunt .

 

[bulionz]

lol ive already ask for a ferret but im not allowed 1