Car thread

[kawasakirider]

I'm saying what's the point of the power if you can't use it properly. Falcons are boats.

The DOHC in the XR6T's have tons of power potential, a cappa flash, cai, zorst and other minimal mods and they are a weapon, but the car is a stupid thing to put such power in because they handle like ***.

 

[Danger_Mouse]

get to know your cars better then.

I've been in an XR6 pushing 400rwkw that handled like it was on rails...been in a 2 tonne caprice that handled better than most sport cars. It's all about the set up, get it right and it will stick to the road.

 

[kawasakirider]

Lol, I don't care what you say mate, whiteline sway bars and adjustables won't make an XR6 handle as well as a skyline. A 2 tonne caprice handling better than most sports cars? I doubt it..

Trust me, I buy streetfords all the time (which proves I'm not bashing them for no reason), plus I stripped my falcon and put a 2003 xr6 engine in it.... I love them and have worked on plenty. But they are a different breed of car to a proper sports car.

 

[leighroy6]

good thread starter

this is my 99 series 3 vs caprice, v6 supercharged with a 14 pound pully, i love listening to her howl ...got so much work i'd like to do to it but think im gunna sell it for a vx calais

 

[kawasakirider]

1/4 time mate? The VS caprice is a nice looking car.

 

[Danger_Mouse]

I've been around skylines since I was 15, was also a member of the Skylines Australia Club for a number of years.

With the right set up you can get a car to handle extremely well. Don't care if you don't believe me, I know what I've been in and driven.

 

[guff_man]

Nice caprice mate, looks mint with sigs. Dont swap it for a VX! VS is a much nicer looking rig. Unless your after a LS1 to upgrade. But Id say VYs are much nicer than VX

Also I agree with danger mouse, you cant just rat out all falcons and commodores handle like crap. Like anything, if you modify it to be quick, its gonna handle like **** if you leave it stock. But make it quick, AND upgrade brakes and suspension AND get it all right for your setup, then you can have a great handling car.

 

[leighroy6]

yeah its in mint condition, i can say that my vs handles like a bloody dream!!! smoothest steering EVER fords are boats LOL..to true

yeah i know i much rather vs looks but i want the GEN3

 

[kawasakirider]

Nice caprice mate, looks mint with sigs. Dont swap it for a VX! VS is a much nicer looking rig. Unless your after a LS1 to upgrade. But Id say VYs are much nicer than VX

Also I agree with danger mouse, you cant just rat out all falcons and commodores handle like crap. Like anything, if you modify it to be quick, its gonna handle like **** if you leave it stock. But make it quick, AND upgrade brakes and suspension AND get it all right for your setup, then you can have a great handling car.

I never said they can't be improved to handle reasonably, but they can't hang in the twisties with a proper sports car. Anyone who thinks they can is kidding themselves.

 

[Danger_Mouse]

Nice caprice mate, looks mint with sigs. Dont swap it for a VX! VS is a much nicer looking rig. Unless your after a LS1 to upgrade. But Id say VYs are much nicer than VX

Also I agree with danger mouse, you cant just rat out all falcons and commodores handle like crap. Like anything, if you modify it to be quick, its gonna handle like **** if you leave it stock. But make it quick, AND upgrade brakes and suspension AND get it all right for your setup, then you can have a great handling car.

Thank you!

Someone who sees the light lol
My VE is stock and it does handle like crap lol, but with a decent set up will get better.

 

[kawasakirider]

I've been around skylines since I was 15, was also a member of the Skylines Australia Club for a number of years.

With the right set up you can get a car to handle extremely well. Don't care if you don't believe me, I know what I've been in and driven.

OK mate, tell me exactly what you do to a four door family sedan to get it to handle as nimbly as a sports car designed to do so WITH upgrades to make it even better?

White lines, suspension and a strut brace won't cut it. I'm honestly interested (because if it's possible I'll do it to my own project car)...

 

[mr1jz]

Well, well, well.
I have a car from the land of the rising sun that you guys might or might not like.

1991 Toyota Cressida Grande
2.5ltr 1JZGTE engine and 5speed combo
6Boost manifold
Link extreme ecu
550cc injectors
BC racing coilovers
R32 GTR calipers and XR6 front rotors
18in Yokohama model 7's wrapped in Kuhmo KU36
FMIC with custom piping
Garrett GT3582R with .82 rear
Custom 3in dump and exhaust
OS Giken twin plate clutch
Turbosmart 50mm external gate
Big intank Bosch pump
Setrab oil cooler
CAI with 4in piping.

Car makes just over 300rwkw@20psi. Unopened engine.

I have done pretty much all the work myself. I had someone do my aluminum welding as I don't have access to a Tig but everything else was done my me.
Looking to convert it to E85 when it becomes more readily available at the pump. I also have a spare head that I am currently porting that will be fitted to a 2JZ 3.0ltr block in the future.

 

[kawasakirider]

Absolutely crazy the amount of boost the toyota engines can take without even opening them up.

Everyone, I'm not a ford or holden hater at all. I give credit where credit is due, and gruff_mans VS is probably the cleanest one I've seen. But no one can reasonably expect a big heavy family car with a long wheelbase to handle like a sports coupe.

Keep the pics coming guys. It will inspire me lol. I'm considering getting a loan next year for something fast.

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good thread starter

this is my 99 series 3 vs caprice, v6 supercharged with a 14 pound pully, i love listening to her howl ...got so much work i'd like to do to it but think im gunna sell it for a vx calais

Are they 20's mate? Hows the ride with them? Are they like 35 walls?

 

[angie90]

My 2c in the whole handling debate is that Fords & Holdens are a large heavy sedan with a big block in it which in my mind relates to a muscle car. Japs are a great deal lighter, sometimes AWD & usually with forced induction. They are 2 completely different types of cars with different feels. What appeals to me in my VE is the big v8, the low end torque and my favourite part of all - the sound. & what appeals to people with jap cars is the nimbleness, the low slung look, the turbo etc etc. There are pros & cons to everything. Muscle cars aren't really designed to go around corners like a jap car but to me I'm not planning on reenacting tokyo drift so I'm fine with that. Although I believe the handling on my VE is actually very firm & responsive considering it's size & weight.

Comparing within car 'groups' is a little more easy, ie I borrowed a friends BA XR6 for a few weeks while my VY S was being freighted over to WA & that XR6's handling blew me away it was incredible. I've never driven a base model ford before though but I'd say the XR would have sports suspension etc so I don't think it'd be fair to say all Fords handle like boats when I found it really good for the kind of car it is imo

Anyhoo Ill put up pics if more people do! Lol

 

[Squinty]

I've had a few cars in my time. Fair over it now. Waste of money. Poured soooo much money into them and get nothing back!!

Mainly into rotors. Had a few rx7s and an rx2 plus heaps of other cars.

My last car was a series 4 rx7. Made over 300rwkw. Not bad for a 1.3L engine running 1bar boost. Had everything polished. Hidden wiring. Leather interior. Handled like a go kart, 50/50 weight distribution and 1250kg will do that.

 

[angie90]

Also WOW mr1jz- one word.. Sleeper! 300rw/kw?! that's intense. Is it your daily driver??

Squinty - RX7's are probably the only jap car I thoroughly enjoy looking at! Apparently Mazda are scrapping the RX8 for a new version of an RX7, can't remember what they're going to call it though.

 

[kawasakirider]

Agreed 100% woodsy. If I had my dream garage it would consist of

R34 GT-T (love the power coupled with RWD for drifting)
R34 GT-R
XR6-T
Supra
Malloo Ute
Xr6t ute
Old beater hilux set up for 4x4

If people don't mind, I'd love to put up some sweet car vids from youtube? Might make the thread more interesting. Post up your favourite clips, too.

Also WOW mr1jz- one word.. Sleeper! 300rw/kw?! that's intense. Is it your daily driver??

Squinty - RX7's are probably the only jap car I thoroughly enjoy looking at! Apparently Mazda are scrapping the RX8 for a new version of an RX7, can't remember what they're going to call it though.

That would be sweet, RX7's are sexy. The RX8 is ugly I reckon.

For you muscle car guys, this is pretty sick.
[video=youtube;zTsqE2F3NmU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTsqE2F3NmU[/video]

This video is an R34 - I won't embed it because it has language in it. Worth a look, though, only a few seconds long.

Falcons doing a good job on the track
[video=youtube;50nb6vBWVYo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50nb6vBWVYo[/video]

I love fail videos
[video=youtube;uz36--r1anI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz36--r1anI[/video]

This guy below is very lucky
[video=youtube;VF93jNZ36Gw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF93jNZ36Gw[/video]

[video=youtube;MTc0q0TNLxY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTc0q0TNLxY[/video]

Not car, but a great save
[video=youtube;BGKhkO-SsDk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGKhkO-SsDk[/video]

This is one of my favourite videos.

[video=youtube;rs-jAImScms]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs-jAImScms[/video]

Not a huge fan of the later gymkhana vids.

 

[angie90]

Agreed about the RX8, kinda yukky.
OOO dream garage I LOVE THIS!
- My current car (hoping to keep it forever)
- Lambo gallardo balboni edition
- Ferrari scuderia
- LX ss torana coupe
- 74 XB coupe
- any model Camaro
- R35 GTR
- VZ & VE II Senator
- G6E turbo
- Suzuki swift sport (strange I know but I love them for some reason?)
- Ford Focus RS
- ofcourse a Veyron. Any would be fine!
- & a Bentley continental GT

Heaps more I could add but I'd be getting carried away

 

[kawasakirider]

You're right into the exotics, aye. They are sweet, but you can't make them your own so much. That's what I love about cars.

R35's are sweet, I'd probably like them more if they weren't paddle shift. The G6E's are sooo nice, especially with cashmere leather.

I have a huge list, but I was trying to be semi realistic, if I'm successful one day, it may be a possibility

 

[mr1jz]

Also WOW mr1jz- one word.. Sleeper! 300rw/kw?! that's intense. Is it your daily driver??

Nah mate. Just a weekend car. In the middle of getting it engineered for legality reasons. It will get one night at the drags and then plenty of track days. I agree with RX7's looking good but if you get close, you soon find that they are very much on the plastic side of things.

Here is a video of mine the first time I started it. It was 2330hrs in the middle of the week. Neighbours never said anything though.


[video=youtube;NJb9d3CiWvY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJb9d3CiWvY[/video]

This is another video the next day.

[video=youtube;8U4xNPizOKM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U4xNPizOKM&NR=1[/video]