Are your reptiles pets?

[Kurto]

I thought I'd start this thread so I dont hijack another..

I just read a comment claiming that captive reptiles weren't pets at all?? ( I'm not singling out the individual, I've read this a few time before..)

I completely disagree with this. How can my 7th generation (possibly more) captive bred pythons be classified as protected native fauna? They serve no conservation purpose what so ever. On the off chance they escaped, were caught by a random person and handed back to the DECCW, would they not be destroyed?

What do you think?

 

[Jazzz]

my bredli is a pet, not in the traditional sense though. I think some people refer to reptile keeping as a hobby so the specimens are just part of their collection. They are protected native fauna... that is now your pet

 

[SYNeR]

Yea, I saw this post too and was quite shocked.

I think it's ridiculously totalitarian to suggest captive reptiles are protected native fauna.
Are we that intent on bowing down to the government and surrendering rights / property?

I don't know about you, but I consider my reptiles pets, even members of the family

 

[pythonmum]

There are a variety of types of reptile keepers. Some are pet keepers and some are collectors who maintain locality-specific animals. There is certainly room for both in the hobby. Personally, I keep pets, but I (and all pet keepers) have greatly benefitted from the wisdom of collectors who have found out a great deal about the natural biology of the animals and have perfected the captive husbandry.

 

[shazz]

I supose it rests on your intrpretation of 'Pet'.
A pet is an animal kept for companionship and enjoyment or a household animal, as opposed to wild animals or to livestock, laboratory animals, working animals or sport animals, which are kept for economic or productive reasons. -Wikipedia

 

[ilovemycoastal]

mine are DEFINITELY pets couldnt live without them!

 

[SYNeR]

I think if I were ever to use the term 'collection', it would be for stamps, not reptiles.

 

[Tinky]

My bredli is a living ornament.

My dog is an animated active alarm and security system.

My fish are feng shwey energy centinals.

My birds are limited aerial mobile audio emitters.

I got my coastal as a chick magnet, but he is currently indergoing retraining as a conservation spokesperson.

I also have childern. . . . . .they are my pets.

 

[malachi51]

my bredli is a living ornament.

My dog is an animated active alarm and security system.

My fish are feng shwey energy centinals.

My birds are limited aerial mobile audio emitters.

I got my coastal as a chick magnet, but he is currently indergoing retraining as a conservation spokesperson.

I also have childern. . . . . .they are my pets.

bahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love it!!!

 

[Bez84]

Most of my collection are pets except my group of spotteds, those are crazy and hell bent of killing me lol.
They were bought as i had never kept or bred this species and so it was out of interest and for knowledge that i am now keeping this group.
Il prob raise a couple of there hatchys as pets theve been at in for weeks lol.

 

[Torah]

Mine are pets ! And living decorations

 

[longqi]

I have a slightly different mixture
Of about 20 display animals I would consider 10 to be absolutely pets with all the characteristics that define pets
The other 10 are a mixture of curiousity on my part and probably toleration on theirs
2 that live in the house are shared between the girls really and are spoiled rotten and are definitely pets
1 other one in the house that is definitely not a pet by any stretch of the imagination
Most of the ones in the breeding area are mostly not really pets but 3 out of 30+ are

 

[Torah]

^ just a question , does anyone ever say anything if you buy ALOT of reptiles within a year after sending your license back in ??? I know your allowed as many as you want but do the deccw worry about the number we buy ???

 

[wranga]

I thought I'd start this thread so I dont hijack another..

I just read a comment claiming that captive reptiles weren't pets at all?? ( I'm not singling out the individual, I've read this a few time before..)

I completely disagree with this. How can my 7th generation (possibly more) captive bred pythons be classified as protected native fauna? They serve no conservation purpose what so ever. On the off chance they escaped, were caught by a random person and handed back to the DECCW, would they not be destroyed?

What do you think?

alittle off topic. but if their not protacted native fauna, then why must we hold a keepers license and keep a record book?
my snakes are pets tho not in the normal sence of a pet

 

[reptilian1924]

l agree with what everyone is saying that the Reptiles you keep in your home on Licence are your pets, but they remain the property of the crown which mean you just cannot take them anywhere with you.
For example you are not allowed to take them out of your home to anyone elses home that you know of, or can you take them anywhere in Australia or overseas like you can do with a dog or cat.

The wildlife Authorites have the right to come to your home anytime they want to to do a full inspection and check your record book, and they can also remove the captive Reptiles from your premises within good reason, just like they can with Birds & Mammals that are also fully protected under the wildlife act Australia wide.

So no-way can you say that any Reptile that you keep in your home on licence is yours only and they are your pets cause they are 100% fully protected.

 

[Guest]

my reptiles are protected native fawna and my pets
anything that lives under my responsability and care is part of my family big or small, weather it runs, flys, crawls or hides under a rock

l agree with what everyone is saying that the Reptiles you keep in your home on Licence are your pets, but they remain the property of the crown which mean you just cannot take them anywhere with you.
For example you are not allowed to take them out of your home to anyone elses home that you know of, or can you take them anywhere in Australia or overseas like you can do with a dog or cat.

The wildlife Authorites have the right to come to your home anytime they want to to do a full inspection and check your record book, and they can also remove the captive Reptiles from your premises within good reason, just like they can with Birds & Mammals that are also fully protected under the wildlife act Australia wide.

So no-way can you say that any Reptile that you keep in your home on licence is yours only and they are your pets cause they are 100% fully protected.

i have to disagree with this
all animals have limitations with what can be done with them, doesnt mean they belong to the property of the crown!
DECCW NEED a reason to take the animals from you just as RSPCA does to take a horse or dog, councils have the right to tell you where you can take your dogs or cats and ag departments have the right to decide weather or not you are allowed to keep cirtain breeds and species of livestock
it mearly means they have the right to make sure you follow the guidelines they set out for you but they are your animals and you must take full responsability for them or they will be seized and then become property of the crown to do what they desire with

 

[sookie]

My animals and now reps pretty much are my family.i have a kid whose growing up too quick,and a hubby who doesn't even know when im home and when im not.my pets all know when i get up or home.and everyone needs to be greeted by me one at a time.

 

[kawasakirider]

My jungles roll onto their backs and get me to scratch their bellies. I think that constitutes a pet.

 

[hypochondroac]

my reptiles are protected native fawna and my pets
anything that lives under my responsability and care is part of my family big or small, weather it runs, flys, crawls or hides under a rock



i have to disagree with this
all animals have limitations with what can be done with them, doesnt mean they belong to the property of the crown!
DECCW NEED a reason to take the animals from you just as RSPCA does to take a horse or dog, councils have the right to tell you where you can take your dogs or cats and ag departments have the right to decide weather or not you are allowed to keep cirtain breeds and species of livestock
it mearly means they have the right to make sure you follow the guidelines they set out for you but they are your animals and you must take full responsability for them or they will be seized and then become property of the crown to do what they desire with

Here here Farmsworth.

 

[reptilian1924]

my reptiles are protected native fawna and my pets
anything that lives under my responsability and care is part of my family big or small, weather it runs, flys, crawls or hides under a rock



i have to disagree with this
all animals have limitations with what can be done with them, doesnt mean they belong to the property of the crown!
DECCW NEED a reason to take the animals from you just as RSPCA does to take a horse or dog, councils have the right to tell you where you can take your dogs or cats and ag departments have the right to decide weather or not you are allowed to keep cirtain breeds and species of livestock
it mearly means they have the right to make sure you follow the guidelines they set out for you but they are your animals and you must take full responsability for them or they will be seized and then become property of the crown to do what they desire with

All Reptiles-Mammals-Birds do remain the property of the crown, l know that from what l have been told by wildlife officers employed here in Victoria, within the Department of Sustainability and Environment aswell as other wildlife officers throughout Australia.

Tell me one thing if the Reptiles your keeping on licence are your property, why can't you take your pet Pythons with you to say Western Australia, if you decide to relocate to that state for work or any other personal reasons, you instead would have to think very seriously before relocating, whether or not your prepared to depart with what ever Pythons you have on licence.

But you don't have to do that with say a Dog or Cat do you cause not, so for you or anyone to say any Native Reptiles-Mammals-Birds are not the property of the crown, you don't know what your talking about do you cause not.

l myself have been keeping and breeding Australians Reptiles on licence since 1983 so l know the rules and regulations listed under the wildlife act since 1975 very well.