vegetarians and vegans
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BurtonReptiles
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once again every school kid comes out with childish remark , sometime i really wonder how old most people are on this forum.
Who are you referring too?
BurtonReptiles
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The monkey that standing behind you
Oh... that monkey is my dinner!
BurtonReptiles
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ok next person please
some farming practices are abit dodgy hence the merits of going vego
not to mention the problems with obesity n stuff
on the *****ide you sorta have to supplement with some vitamin B cz vegies aint exactly a complete foodstuff
+ pesticides, herbicides, bulldozing bushland for crop growing, is as valid as methane production from a ecological standpoint
not all animals are raised in horrid conditions, if you ever check how the japs raise wagyu beef cattle, its amazing how they actually care for the animals. its my personal opinion a larger number of animals should be treated with such respect although unfortunately most of the time thats not the case
back on track, not vegan, i have canines and i plan on using em, doing 2nd year food science & nutrition sorta keeps me in check on what i eat but that also includes a healthy serving of meat in addition to the veg
not to mention the problems with obesity n stuff
on the *****ide you sorta have to supplement with some vitamin B cz vegies aint exactly a complete foodstuff
+ pesticides, herbicides, bulldozing bushland for crop growing, is as valid as methane production from a ecological standpoint
not all animals are raised in horrid conditions, if you ever check how the japs raise wagyu beef cattle, its amazing how they actually care for the animals. its my personal opinion a larger number of animals should be treated with such respect although unfortunately most of the time thats not the case
back on track, not vegan, i have canines and i plan on using em, doing 2nd year food science & nutrition sorta keeps me in check on what i eat but that also includes a healthy serving of meat in addition to the veg
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I eat vegetarian food sometimes because I like it. It's actually really good value at a restaurant because I find you always get more! But I choose it because I like the taste, not really any other reason. I do also like meat & I get intense cravings for it when i don't have it after a while. Unfortunately, as far as I know anyway, the type of iron in vegetables needs a huge amount of another vit (think it's c?) to actually absorb so in order to be nutritionally complete you would have to be very balanced IMO. I have a veg friend who insists on taking vegetarian vitamins (derived from plants, non-gelatin capsules) just in case.
However the nutriotional deficiencies involved in any diet usually depends a lot on the actual person. I have another friend who doesn't eat much red meat at all but is naturally iron-laden! A problem being with this too is that when you have too much of something/not enough, it's very similar symptoms.
I also only drink soy milk. A huge amount of people say that the body isn't really meant to have animal milk after childhood. But I just like the taste of soy milk, yum!
My 2c.
However the nutriotional deficiencies involved in any diet usually depends a lot on the actual person. I have another friend who doesn't eat much red meat at all but is naturally iron-laden! A problem being with this too is that when you have too much of something/not enough, it's very similar symptoms.
I also only drink soy milk. A huge amount of people say that the body isn't really meant to have animal milk after childhood. But I just like the taste of soy milk, yum!
My 2c.
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I was a vegetarian for over 15 years and it was because of ethical issues BUT earthlings is a PETA con, that organisation is so hypocritical it's not funny. They have a kill only policy at all their lost animals shelters and if you pay attention to earthlings you will notice it is all filmed in the same few slaughterhouses and shelters. A lot of what it says is true but a lot of the movie is sensationalised for their own agenda. One of the biggest myths in meat is that the way we slaughter with the bolt is humane and the DVD does show that this is untrue I will give them that. The most humane way to slaughter meat is the way it is done by Muslims. The animal loses consciousness very quickly and drifts off, but organisations like PETA have drummed it into everyones head that this is cruel. Before anyone attacks me for this go and do a search of the real way halal meat is slaughtered. It is not just the killing process either, under halal law they have to be raised in a safe environment, treated with respect, not fed or given artificial chemicals and not exposed to a fearful death. That is why most organic meat is also Halal certified.
can i ask why you went back to meat? i dont think id be able to do it now after 5 yrs let alone 15... it creeps me out now =/
they are pretty much the most amazing thing ever lol.
have them on pizza, in a sammich or with tacos!
yumm!
now im going to go buy some
notechistiger
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I love my meat far too much to give it up. The only meat I absolutely refuse to eat is veal, because veal practices are cruel no matter what way you go about it.
marteed
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Hi all,
Im a Vegetarian, i have been for 15yrs. I love animals which is why I became a vego. I am the only one in my family that doesnt eat meat, even my 2kids eat meat as I believe it is their choice as to whether they will be meat eaters or not. The only issues i have is finding nice tasty meals when going out, although i must admit it is slowly getting better. I dont push my opinions on to anyone and get really tired of the jokes that are directed my way (15yrs of hearing the same thing gets tiring, and i dont make jokes of others opinions). One other thing that gets to me are the "new" age vegetarians. "Im a vegetarian but i eat white meat" or "im a vegetarian but eat seafood". No you are just selective of what meat you eat
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vegetarian (me) = someone who doesnt eat any meat but still eats/drinks dairy and eggs,
vegan = no animal products at all
Im a Vegetarian, i have been for 15yrs. I love animals which is why I became a vego. I am the only one in my family that doesnt eat meat, even my 2kids eat meat as I believe it is their choice as to whether they will be meat eaters or not. The only issues i have is finding nice tasty meals when going out, although i must admit it is slowly getting better. I dont push my opinions on to anyone and get really tired of the jokes that are directed my way (15yrs of hearing the same thing gets tiring, and i dont make jokes of others opinions). One other thing that gets to me are the "new" age vegetarians. "Im a vegetarian but i eat white meat" or "im a vegetarian but eat seafood". No you are just selective of what meat you eat
My opinion-
vegetarian (me) = someone who doesnt eat any meat but still eats/drinks dairy and eggs,
vegan = no animal products at all
saximus
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Aren't they the definitions rather than opinions?
marteed
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Ok, sorry i should have worded it better
. "In my opinion the definition of"...... etc. etc...
saximus
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lol not really. That is the definition regardless of your opinion. But I think I get your point
kawasakirider
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I love animals, and I hate the thought of animals being killed inhumanely. These scumbags in the third world countries that not only kill, but torture animals don't deserve to live themselves. People in Korea torture animals when they kill them, due to the fact that they believe the more adrenaline the animal is experiencing at the time of death, the tastier the meat is. These are the areas of livestock produce that need to be stopped. These pathetic people should starve to death and torture each other for a feed, we don't need them.
On the other hand though, you pretend to know about the meat industry in Australia, which you evidently don't. You claim that livestock here have a bad life, I assure you any grain fed steer that has access to shelter is a happy animal. They get the best medical treatment, preventative care and eat better than you "vegiewhatsies". The end of the line for them is understandably upsetting for some (even me), but the animal doesn't know it's about to be knocked on the head.
Vegetarians take iron supplements, without these you'd have to eat meat. So in a world not as advanced as ours, you'd have no choice.
The talk of greens feeding the world is all well and good, but if that's the case why isn't subsistence farming in the 3rd world countries working? The farmers sell their produce for little cash, but why wouldn't they just eat it instead?
Please don't take this as a go at you, the "rant" was just a joke, because I couldn't be bothered multiquoting. Wanting to be a voice for the animals is very noble, and when I see the ads on TV about animal welfare, they hit home with me a lot more than the ads of the poor people. I have much more compassion for animals than humans.
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