soundfix
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6 months ago, i puchased a pair of juvenille Jungles, from a breeder, who i was referred to from ASP classifieds.
The breeder lived close-by, and although it is know where she resides, all dealings and sales, are done from the back of her car, usually at night,under street light, next to a local park.
May sound dodgey, but ive come across people, that for various reasons do not want their residence or place of business know.
Anyway, after a few days, i noticed one of the jungles had a problem with its tongue.(refer to my previous posts, for details.)
Spoke to breeder, eventually, and after some time, and upon inspection, she acknowledged the defect, and i was offered another snake.
The replacement was the last snake from the clutch, and all exchanges were done very quickly.
She said, she would not be reselling the defective snake, but would keep it. I offered to purchase it back,when/if she found out the problem.-she was just to let me know!
Well she ended up selling it to someone else,-.
The 2nd, replacement Jungle, is not thriving. Although eating, shedding, pooing, its obviuos, when you see her, she will never be well enough to breed.She has a 'clicking' like sound when she breaths, and just very poor strength.
By now im off course very attached to this little sick girl, and no way am i giving it back to the breeder.
This isnt a matter of money, but i feel ethical standards at least.
So i have a few questions for anyone else, who's feels they'v been 'taken advantage off, or bought a snake, and had no recall, due to the breeder not having a place of business.
I feel this practise of 'dark lane way meetings, as unreliable)-i realise, privacy is a concern, but if breeders are making money from a domestic premise's, and probably not paying tax,-surely they must beheld accountable for something, like any other saleperson.
It discusts me how some breeders, treat the whole snake breeding thing as a money making concern and the snake are just commodities, with little regard for the conservationof wildlife, or the welfare of the said, sold animals.
This is part of her reply,defending the snakes parents, when i advise her the other snake wasnt doing to well.
Breeder,----"This pair of snakes have been bred last year and two years previous out of 40 hatchlings there have been only a problem with the three that you have had I did give you the choice of a refund but you chose the other snake that did not have a problem coiling around her food here. I have had the tongue problem looked at by a reputal breeder at Wyoming and said the only problem with the tongue is if it dries out can drop off, fatal in the wild but not in captivity. The female with the long tongue is thriving in her new home and her tongue has retracted so only the tip is out.
The original male jungle, is going great.
Strong, growing healthy, ect.
So its only the female, not 3 snakes as she says.
My other concern is that if this breeder fails to recognise a problem breeder, -
1.Possibly producing 'snakes that would not survive in the wild',, can this lead to unwanted hatchlings.
2. This person advertises herself as having great communications after sales. -i found this not to be the case.
3.The product was not as described, is there any acknowledgment for snake breeders,through the the Consumers tribunal.?
4 Although i except all responcibility, for choosing this breeder,,- does she have any obligation to the DECCC,-
regarding the sale of defective wildlife,--"that wouldnt survive in the wild'.
Had all sorts of advise from' "give the snake away to someone, that doesnt breed"
--and "just go to the breeders residence, if she resists further meetings"
"Complain to the Consumers tribunal" ect, ect
I researched heaps,on 'snake tongue disorders,- (once again, refer to my previous posts on this snake.) I couldnt find anything on 'dry tongue'. If anyone has information, on this disorder, please explain.
Thanks
The breeder lived close-by, and although it is know where she resides, all dealings and sales, are done from the back of her car, usually at night,under street light, next to a local park.
May sound dodgey, but ive come across people, that for various reasons do not want their residence or place of business know.
Anyway, after a few days, i noticed one of the jungles had a problem with its tongue.(refer to my previous posts, for details.)
Spoke to breeder, eventually, and after some time, and upon inspection, she acknowledged the defect, and i was offered another snake.
The replacement was the last snake from the clutch, and all exchanges were done very quickly.
She said, she would not be reselling the defective snake, but would keep it. I offered to purchase it back,when/if she found out the problem.-she was just to let me know!
Well she ended up selling it to someone else,-.
The 2nd, replacement Jungle, is not thriving. Although eating, shedding, pooing, its obviuos, when you see her, she will never be well enough to breed.She has a 'clicking' like sound when she breaths, and just very poor strength.
By now im off course very attached to this little sick girl, and no way am i giving it back to the breeder.
This isnt a matter of money, but i feel ethical standards at least.
So i have a few questions for anyone else, who's feels they'v been 'taken advantage off, or bought a snake, and had no recall, due to the breeder not having a place of business.
I feel this practise of 'dark lane way meetings, as unreliable)-i realise, privacy is a concern, but if breeders are making money from a domestic premise's, and probably not paying tax,-surely they must beheld accountable for something, like any other saleperson.
It discusts me how some breeders, treat the whole snake breeding thing as a money making concern and the snake are just commodities, with little regard for the conservationof wildlife, or the welfare of the said, sold animals.
This is part of her reply,defending the snakes parents, when i advise her the other snake wasnt doing to well.
Breeder,----"This pair of snakes have been bred last year and two years previous out of 40 hatchlings there have been only a problem with the three that you have had I did give you the choice of a refund but you chose the other snake that did not have a problem coiling around her food here. I have had the tongue problem looked at by a reputal breeder at Wyoming and said the only problem with the tongue is if it dries out can drop off, fatal in the wild but not in captivity. The female with the long tongue is thriving in her new home and her tongue has retracted so only the tip is out.
The original male jungle, is going great.
Strong, growing healthy, ect.
So its only the female, not 3 snakes as she says.
My other concern is that if this breeder fails to recognise a problem breeder, -
1.Possibly producing 'snakes that would not survive in the wild',, can this lead to unwanted hatchlings.
2. This person advertises herself as having great communications after sales. -i found this not to be the case.
3.The product was not as described, is there any acknowledgment for snake breeders,through the the Consumers tribunal.?
4 Although i except all responcibility, for choosing this breeder,,- does she have any obligation to the DECCC,-
regarding the sale of defective wildlife,--"that wouldnt survive in the wild'.
Had all sorts of advise from' "give the snake away to someone, that doesnt breed"
--and "just go to the breeders residence, if she resists further meetings"
"Complain to the Consumers tribunal" ect, ect
I researched heaps,on 'snake tongue disorders,- (once again, refer to my previous posts on this snake.) I couldnt find anything on 'dry tongue'. If anyone has information, on this disorder, please explain.
Thanks
