I Bought a Bass!!!!

[moosenoose]

What instruments are they?

He's got his hand on one of them 90% of the time hehehe

Do you do any busking Forensick?

I've still got my Chicago Series Washburn and Peavey Renoun amp from my band playing days - I gave up after I had kids. No time to go stuffing around in clubs and bars after that, so no point continuing. Good luck anyway

 

[moosenoose]

ps: amazing clips SD!!!

 

[Forensick]

What instruments are they?

clarinet is my principle, but i play all of them

and saxaphones
flutes
oboe
bassoon...

takes a while to get the tone sounding nice

 

[Forensick]

He's got his hand on one of them 90% of the time hehehe

Do you do any busking Forensick?

I've still got my Chicago Series Washburn and Peavey Renoun amp from my band playing days - I gave up after I had kids. No time to go stuffing around in clubs and bars after that, so no point continuing. Good luck anyway

used to busk in high school....

would make $200 of a saturday

 

[natrix]

Forensick .
Good luck with the bass .
You actually come across to me as someone that's gotten nowhere near mastering
any instrument , & If you think that you don't need to warm-up on bass or put in the hard yards
to get good on it , then you're very mistaken.
Why haven't you pursued any one of the other bunch of instruments you claim to play ?
I'm not meaning to put you down at all , but when it comes to this subject I know my s#it.
I'm the John Weigel & Simon Stone of electric bass playing in Australia
I'm a virtuoso elec bassist with 8 of my own albums out , & i play on another 50 or so.
I was the head of the bass dept at 'The australian Institute of music' & have made my living,
raised my kids & bought my house as a pro bassist all over the world for the last 20 years.

I do sincerely wish you to do well with the bass , but I can't help thinking it might just be
another instrument that you diddle with for a while & then abandon because it didn't turn out to be as easy as you thought . I hope you prove me wrong.

 

[craig.a.c]

Way to go, I am a bass player also.

I have never played a Cort though. I am currently using an Ibanez soundgear 905 (5 string).

Do a search on Youtube for a young guy named Marco Rodi. Awsome bass player. And Victor Wooten is great too.

 

[Forensick]

Forensick .
Good luck with the bass .
You actually come across to me as someone that's gotten nowhere near mastering
any instrument , & If you think that you don't need to warm-up on bass or put in the hard yards
to get good on it , then you're very mistaken.
Why haven't you pursued any one of the other bunch of instruments you claim to play ?
I'm not meaning to put you down at all , but when it comes to this subject I know my s#it.
I'm the John Weigel & Simon Stone of electric bass playing in Australia
I'm a virtuoso elec bassist with 8 of my own albums out , & i play on another 50 or so.
I was the head of the bass dept at 'The australian Institute of music' & have made my living,
raised my kids & bought my house as a pro bassist all over the world for the last 20 years.

I do sincerely wish you to do well with the bass , but I can't help thinking it might just be
another instrument that you diddle with for a while & then abandon because it didn't turn out to be as easy as you thought . I hope you prove me wrong.

I played clarinet for 11 years, and still do... due to the strenuous nature of the warm up, it isnt enjoyable to just "jam" on.
as for "mastering" anything... i am Amus on clarinet, with 5th AMEB on bass clarinet, no other levels on anything else as mostly i played them at the request of concert/jazz/marching bands i was part of, depending on need.
However, i also decided after high school that it wasn't something i wished to pursue professionally, espec given what i wanted to do professionally, i simply wasn't good enough for... (there are 3 or 4 clarinet spots available in australian symphonic orchestras), so i pursued other paths... and as i said, the time required before "enjoyable" play just isn't available to me....

as for the bass.... i dont want to be a proffesional, i just want something to play when i get home from work thats relaxing... and yes scales on new instruments IS relaxing to me.
and while i do expect to eventually be technically perfect, that is simply because of how i learn/practice 11 years of habit is hard to break....
but as you should know the gulf between technical perfection and virtuoso is huge... or as one of my teachers used to say "so tiny most people can never see it"

 

[natrix]

Forensick , I hear what you wrote.

Re ; technical perfection ; There really is no such thing , it never ends . Once you think you've
'Mastered an Insrument' or mastered music , you're gone.
The great Spanish Cellist Pablo Casals said at 80 years old that he was just scratching the
surface. It's an on-going concern , you have to keep polishing the diamond .

Learning scales is good , but i'd also recommend transcribing bass lines from music you like.

 

[Forensick]

i meants technical perfection at each pieve rather than infiately....

to me the difference between a virtuoso and perfection is a virtuoso is never ever perfect....
that thing thats not written on the stave is what makes it.

as for transcribing... although you mocked the list of instruments i play....
because they use different clefs and keys i generally can do it by sight...
although i to transcribe everything from tabs.... those things are confusing!
actually did that yesterday for a tool song i hope to be able to play one day....

and given you are who you say you are....
recomend any teachers?
i am having trouble finding one that will just teach me the instrument rather than a syle (if that makes sense)

 

[natrix]

My computer's taking ages tonight , maybe it's because of all that 'youtube' stuff in the thread.
If you're in Melb , check-out the shop called 'The bass player' --they could point you in the direction of a teacher that might be what you're after.
Yep , I am who I said I am , if you type steve hunter followed by the words 'jazz' or 'bass' ther's
a bunch of stuff on line , including my own website.
I didn't mock any instruments you played at all , not sure how you arrived at that at all ,
read over what I wrote. Any instrument has the capacity to sound beautiful or like crap ,
it just depends who's hands it's in.

"transcribing by tab" or standard notation doesn't make sense.
Transribing means that you figure out what the player on the album/CD is doing & then write
it down.

 

[Forensick]

you just implied, that because of the number, they all sound on the poor side

 

[natrix]

That's right , No-one , & I mean No-one sounds very good on that number of instruments.
Even John Coltrane sounded a bit weaker & slightly out of tune on the soprano sax , but
is the un-paralled master of the Tenor.

 

[Forensick]

thats why i say my principle is the clarinet...
and you'll find all that follow are reed instrument... same or reverse fingering, so "spreading" doesnt affect the principle dramatically...
although i quit playing jazz on the saxes as it had a tendancy to affect my classical tone on clarinet.

and in regard to your edit.
i used the tabs, while listening to a song to transcribe it into music...
alas i dont have perfect pitch... and at 3am people dont appreciate me tapping c over and over again on a piano to get intervals

 

[nickamon]

clarinet is my principle, but i play all of them

and saxaphones
flutes
oboe
bassoon...

takes a while to get the tone sounding nice

Ah, gotcha. I've never played woodwind or brass instruments, so I have no clue.

I'm going to get a theremin in the next year or so, and you have to plug them in and let them warm up for 10-15 minutes before you can start playing.

 

[swingonthespiral]

Ermm Natrix... no offence or anything.... but can't people just play an instrument cos they like it??? Whether they are good or not???

I'm a terrible, terrible bass player (i am a lefty with stubby fingers LOL)...... but i still like playing it.... And bashing around on the drum kit to try and resemble something that sounds even remotely like a song that i love is something i wish i could do more often.

I didn't see forensick say anywhere that he had bought the bass to become a professional player??? I didnt really see the need to ram down his throat who you are which by the way is an excellent achievment that i congradulate you on.....

Again no offence intended.

 

[S.D.]

and in regard to your edit.
i used the tabs, while listening to a song to transcribe it into music...
alas i dont have perfect pitch... and at 3am people dont appreciate me tapping c over and over again on a piano to get intervals

But hey… You could easily have perfect pitch and/or relative pitch… All you have to do is buy the complete Perfect Pitch and Relative Pitch: Super training course from the #1 selling ear training method for 26 years. You’ll get all 49 Audio CDs, Easy Handbooks, New Footnotes Booklet, ALL FREE BONUSES + 2 FREE BONUS CDs AND A FREE Chord Chart and Power Point Session. How much would you expect to pay for this complete super ear training course? I dunno either as I’ve tried to sell it on eBay lately and no one knows what it is Looks like I’m stuck with it forever (don’t get me wrong it’s great and it works, I’m just trying to graduate from UNI now and don’t have the time anymore).

In all seriousness though there’s also a huge difference between schooled and un-schooled musicians and then, like you said, virtuosos and average player. Then you have the difference between musical styles, type of instrument (electric, acoustic, double-bass etc.) and then to add even more of a variance, you have the guy who is very content to play in his bedroom compared to the guy who plays in front of 1000’s of people each night and plays in every country there is over a 6 month tour.

I’m sorry but elitism amongst musicians is rather substantial these days (especially now with the net) but I think that’s to match their huge egos most of the time. Yes there is musical discussion which is great but I’m talking about the “Hey you, I am better then you, I know more than you, you suck” type stuff. Then the arguments about “man I can sweep-pick Boléro’s – ‘Ma Mère l'Oye’ for each instrument of the orchestra’. That’s great. But while all this ego-toting goes on some guy who picked up a bass and taught himself to play is touring the world, making money doing what he’s loving and isn’t getting into arguments over who knows the most scales or can sigh-read. I know some people’s goal is to be a perfect player rather then tour. That’s just as meaningful. I get that. I know everyone is different and has different goals – so why not leave it at that?

 

[da_donkey]

I love Bass

 

[Erin_Jane]

Ah, gotcha. I've never played woodwind or brass instruments, so I have no clue.

I'm going to get a theremin in the next year or so, and you have to plug them in and let them warm up for 10-15 minutes before you can start playing.

Are you seriously getting a theremin??? I'd never even heard of them until they had one on Spicks and Specks a couple of weeks ago! Crazy stuff!!

I wish I could play an instrument... My piano teacher asked me to quit :cry:

 

[S.D.]

I love Bass

Is that because of the funky bass-lines in the soundtracks of ‘Adult Films’? Duby-Duby-Duby (rest) Dubidi-Dubidi Dubidi-Dubidi (repeat). You need a funky guitar player too with a wah peddle to come in then (not literally of course) for the Bow-Chica-Chica Bow-Chica-Chica Bow-Chica (repeat from this point). Then the brass comes in with Dohhhhhhh Dohhhhhhh Dohh Dohh (rest) (repeat).

Well… At least that’s how I think that kinda music would sound…

 

[Clairebear]

You should listen to some Victor Wooten. By far the best bass player in the world (and no i haven't heard them all but he is hot stuff and therefore is the best... because i say so!!!!). He plays with Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. They rock!

I have an ex who has perfect pitch... he's a full on freak! He's a bass player and he just listens to something and knows without any help what notes they are!

I reckon it's more fun being a jack of all trades then specialising in an instrument. I have a degree on the cornet/trumpet but find it more fun playing tuba these days. It goes 'bum bum bum bum'! Being a music teacher it's good to know a bit of everything! But i'm still very proficient on my main instrument.