Snake ID Please

[Jozz]

These pics were sent to me by a workmate from the Riverland. Please help with ID.

Please only people who definately know what they're talking about! Thanks in advance

 

[DanTheReptileMan]

Looks like an Brown Snake, even though its more black than brown
like in the picture below

 

[Jozz]

Thanks Dan. I told him I thought it was just a really dark eastern brown. Anyone who can say definately?

 

[misssullivan]

brown snake. get them here fairly often.

 

[$NaKe PiMp]

brown

and where is riverland?

 

[Jonno from ERD]

I'd say it was actually a Western Brown, due to it having a large rostral scale.

 

[Australis]

What Pseudonaja species do you get there?


Pseudonaja textilis DOR.

 

[Frozenmouse]

western brown

 

[jamgo]

looks like textilis to me

 

[JasonL]

Looks dead to me

 

[Jozz]

The riverland is in SA, about 2hrs 30mins from Adelaide, and bout 1hr 45mins from Mildura in Victoria. We definately get western browns here, eastern browns, tigers. I've seen a couple of western browns where I live, including one that came to my back door for some help (pic attached)

Thanks Jonno, thats the kind of answer I wanted; one with an explanation And thanks stralis

Thanks everyone else too

 

[Matthew Burgess]

I'd say it was actually a Western Brown, due to it having a large rostral scale.

my thoughts exactly.

 

[Jozz]

Do western browns have the belly spots? Thats why I thought it was an eastern - thought I could see spots on the belly in a couple of the shots.

 

[eipper]

Jozz,

Got a buccal cavity shot (mouth lining)...?

The rostral scale is not shaped right for victorian type western browns Pseudonaja "nuchalis" and from what I understand they are the same species across to the edge of the eyre peninsula.

I lean towards an Eastern Brown Pseudonaja textilis

Cheers,
Scott Eipper

 

[Jozz]

Thanks Scott. I will see if he's got more photos. I've seen both really banded like the one in my photo, and hardly banded at all western browns near my house? Although the unbanded one was during winter - is that why it would have been so dark?

 

[$NaKe PiMp]

The riverland is in SA, about 2hrs 30mins from Adelaide, and bout 1hr 45mins from Mildura in Victoria. We definately get western browns here, eastern browns, tigers. I've seen a couple of western browns where I live, including one that came to my back door for some help (pic attached)

Thanks Jonno, thats the kind of answer I wanted; one with an explanation And thanks stralis

Thanks everyone else too

oh you posted thatpic before didnt you ?

did you end up helping the poor guy ?

 

[Jozz]

Yep, I posted the pics when it happened. Tim Bredl held him and I cut it off. It was a plastic floss tool?! He is all good

 

[urodacus_au]

Id say nuchalis personally but a head on shot of the rostral would be nice.

Jordan

* Just looked at the first pic, id go nuchalis but i have no experience with textilis personally.

 

[$NaKe PiMp]

Yep, I posted the pics when it happened. Tim Bredl held him and I cut it off. It was a plastic floss tool?! He is all good

lol a dental floss tool,i was wondering what the mystery object around the neck was:lol:

 

[Jonno from ERD]

G'day Jozz,

I have caught 3 colour forms in the Riverland - both the banded form and dark brown form like your photo's, and also very light tan coloured animals with small but distinct nuchal markings.