Kristy ...how can one say they dont want to eat meat because they arent in support of killing animals ..then go out and buy 10 pairs of leather shoes ...DOUBLE STANDARDS ...that is my point ...like I said before what you eat for your own personal healthy regime is holy and soley your business and I dont care ,thats great, if it makes you feel happy and good about yourself ...BUT!!!! saying its for the enviroment whilst sitting on your leather computer chair with your leather shoes on is HYPOCRISY:meaning(a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.) THAT IS MY PEEVE!
You either put ya money where ya mouth is if you are going to claim animal rights like that and avoid animal products fully ..or SHUT YOUR MOUTHS and get off the SOAPBOX ...
Okay, I get what you're saying, and I agree that it is double standards. That said, it's hard NOT to have double standards if you decide to support anything remotely environmentally friendly.
If you decide not to drive a car, I bet you still buy food from your local Woolies which has been shipped there by a boat/truck/plane. If you decide to use recycled paper only, I bet you still use the occasional toothpick made from a piece of old growth forest. If you decide to buy an electric car, you are still supporting lithium mining, which will eventually be really bad for the earth, too.
Tasmania set up a wind-power station that was right in the middle of a bunch of endangered Tasmanian wedge-tailed eagle nesting sites and killed a heap of them :shock:
I remember one old guy tell me that the Lions Club had given a bunch of money to some villages way up in the mountains in Nepal to save people's eyesight (like Fred Hollows) - sight was saved, people lived longer, used more resources than before, cut down more trees on the mountain for firewood etc., there was a big rain, mountainside collapsed and caused landslide, and killed THOUSANDS of people living on the riverbanks of Bangladesh :shock:
My point is, no matter what soapbox you're standing on, it's probably squishing some poor defenseless endangered field mouse underneath it, made out of old-growth timber, or shipped their by some big dirty smelly truck made predominantly out of seal pup leather products. It doesn't mean you stop trying or just give up - especially when you're in me and J's generation
It's our job to be like this!! But, I'm certainly not condemning you for eating meat. And I definitely don't have a leather work chair - it's plastic (Vietnam is so lousy sometimes).
Good debate so far, though
Smoking cigarettes is purely vegetarian....
GIGGLE! (Sorry I was cranky at your post last night - PM me about those LEDs
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