snakeluvver
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can i also just clear this up, I did not kill it, and i wouldnt have killed it. it was the neighbor who killed it.
she was hanging the washing and stood on its tail.Some great info there guys to try and clarify al these misconceptions of the need to kill the snakes!!!!
So this poor little whip snake was killed for no reason........ lovely.
Also, as asked earlier, what were the circumstances of your mums bite?
can i also just clear this up, I did not kill it, and i wouldnt have killed it. it was the neighbor who killed it.
I've looked several times to no avail to find statistics on how snake bites have occurred, about all that i can find is the stats of keepers vs. non-keepers and total numbers.
Do you have access to these stats that could be made public? Statistics like bites caused by trying to catch/kill/stepped on etc etc?
Has anyone else here been in for snake bite and not had a VDK administered? I have, it was a little concerning lol.
see now thats why i would go and just demand a pair of crutches and and then go see my dad. he's a radiographer of 25+ years and has recently been left in charge of over $4 million worth of xray/CT/MRI equipment plus other equipment like bone density and is trained so yeah, i wouldn't even book in an appointment i'd just hobble in and get an emergency xray done then wait for results.Also would you ever rely on a doctor giving a accurate ID, some cant even tell that you have a shattered knee cap!!! As has been said they do a swab then wait to see the results and go from there. Anti venom is a last resort!
Sorry to take this of topic slightly But i have a question on antivenom. I understand the venoms of some snakes are different than others but it is my understanding that antivenoms are not species or genus specific, an example was shown earlier of RBB testing positive for Tigersnake. Would I be correct to assume that the same antivenom would be used on all serious Pseudechis and Notechis bites, what other genus would be treated with this antivenom? Tsubakai, is a polyvalent antivenom used to treat all serious envenomation when no other antivenom is available? If so does this mean the potential side effects of the antivenom would be more severe? How many different antivenoms are used in Australia?
Steve
see now thats why i would go and just demand a pair of crutches and and then go see my dad. he's a radiographer of 25+ years and has recently been left in charge of over $4 million worth of xray/CT/MRI equipment plus other equipment like bone density and is trained so yeah, i wouldn't even book in an appointment i'd just hobble in and get an emergency xray done then wait for results.
i've had it done on most body parts coz i'm so accident prone.
I couldn't work out why your radiographer dad would be able to ID what kind of snake had bitten you, or how giving an x-ray would help things. But I guess you were talking about the glib shattered knee cap comment and not a snake bite...
Snake Group Initial Antivenom Dose
Brown Snakes 2 vial 'Brown' or 1 vial polyvalent
(Pseudonaja)
Tiger Snakes (Notechis) 2 vials 'Tiger' or 1 vial polyvalent
Copperheads (Austrelaps)
Rough Scaled Snakes
Mulga Snake 1 vial 'Black' or 1 vial Polyvalent
Collett's Snake
Spotted Black
Red Bellied Black 1 vial 'Tiger' or 1 vial Polyvalent
Death Adders 1 vial 'Death Adder' 0r 1 vial polyvalent
Taipans 2 vials 'Taipan' or 1 vial polyvalent
Sea-snakes 2 vial 'sea-snake' or 1 vial polyvalent
There are 7 different antivenoms used in Australia...
* Taipan
* Brown Snake
* Black Snake
* Tiger Snake
* Death Adder
* Sea Snake
* Polyvalent
Thanks very much Firepac. Is it always preferable to use the correct antivenom over the polyvalent?
Matt had 1 vile of brown (cause thats all they had ) and because of the severity of his condition the doctor didnt use poly on him and they did the trial of frozen fresh plasma instead ...also this method they claim is less chance of copping severe serum sickness down the track ...he did still suffer serum sickness though ..
It is administered through a drip ,they do believe it helps the body to start clotting quicker again and the fact that if they can use less anti ven the better all round ..but it is still in its trial stages ,Matt wasnt really in a state to argue the point when they suggested to use it on him ...he has been added to the trial study now and the follow up notes will be part of the study too ..Thanks again. RBB what is the frozen fresh plasma? I'm thinking it's the part of the blood containing antibodies. Do they believe the plasma aided his recovery or possibly saved his life? How is it administered?
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