'Bumble Bee' blackhead

[GeckoJosh]

Quote from Pilbara pythons site:

Bumble Bee Blackhead​

The Bumblebee black headed python as we have called it, is a superb male Pilbara specimen of unusual coloration. Our long term future goal is to breed with this python and try and end up with a line of blackheads that produce this colour morph. It is currently mating with a Pilbara black and white phase blackhead as we do not have another one of this colour. We can only hope that one day that a similar female of this colour phase will turn up. We shall up date any results here as they occur.


Maybe the above is out of date?

 

[fabregasreptiles]

it was stolen but from the looks of it, this seems to be the same bumblebee and possibly the same seller....

 

[chickensnake]

It is not the "stolen one" it is WC but its a different one to the "stolen one"

 

[cris]

whats the go with wild snakes? can anyone get a permit for them?

Collecting them legally requires lots going through lots of crap, although in the NT and WA there are people with permision to catch animals for private keepers. Most other places require heaps of BS for legal collection, maybe one day i will get qualified and do a study on V.prasinus thermoregulation or some crap. With any luck our stupidly excessive wildlife laws will be relaxed and more sensible regulated collection could take place accross the whole country.

 

[Wally]

it was stolen but from the looks of it, this seems to be the same bumblebee and possibly the same seller....

I'd be very careful about making any sort of unsubstantiated allegations.

 

[Echiopsis]

Its a different animal, no need for the BS from people who cant tell their *** from a hole in the ground.

 

[gunny]

Amazing hope it has been proven. Would definately like it in my collection

 

[cris]

I'd be very careful about making any sort of unsubstantiated allegations.

Worst thing you could do is look stupid, well in this case anyway. There is nothing wrong with looking stupid, its often amusing, just look at the people at the melbourne cup.

 

[Wild~Touch]

There is nothing wrong with looking stupid, its often amusing, just look at the people at the melbourne cup.

I'll pay that one ROFLMAO

 

[ozziepythons]

Would it be worth paying $12,000 for a snake that you'd need an armed guard to protect from thieves?

 

[AM Pythons]

would it be worth buying a snake for 12000 not knowing if it will reproduce the same colour siblings? i'd want to see past matings, clutch ratio's of 'bumble bee' to normal looking bhp's... i wouldnt be impressed if i spent that sort of money to get a clutch of plain looking bhp's... thats why its still for sale...

 

[solar 17]

would it be worth buying a snake for 12000 not knowing if it will reproduce the same colour siblings? i'd want to see past matings, clutch ratio's of 'bumble bee' to normal looking bhp's... i wouldnt be impressed if i spent that sort of money to get a clutch of plain looking bhp's... thats why its still for sale...

Stongly worded, but a view worth considering....but l believe [in my own lunch-time] the best you could hope for would be "hets" 1st mating to a normal male and then in 3-4 years time put a son over his mother to reproduce the bumblebee colour as its known thats one of three possibilities another is its a dominant gene and reproduces straight off with a normal male and this is a direct possibilty and the other is its a quirk of nature and zippo it doesn't reproduce...another point here is and "l don't know" the story but a very experienced herper had a bumble-bee for a while and and and mmmmmm ????.....solar 17 [Baden]

 

[AM Pythons]

sorry no offence indended.. just a point that hadnt been brought up yet...

 

[CodeRed]

If there is more than one bumble bee in the world then pretty surely its a genetic trait. How its inherited is anyones guess.

One thing that crossed my mind is what happens if the person who stole Sam's bumble bee buys this one? They'll now be able to breed and sell bumble bees without suspicion. Whereas without the female anyone who suddenly tries to sell a bumble bee (other than DM et al) might as well tatoo "REPTILE THIEF" into their forhead

 

[Jason]

If there is more than one bumble bee in the world then pretty surely its a genetic trait. How its inherited is anyones guess.

One thing that crossed my mind is what happens if the person who stole Sam's bumble bee buys this one? They'll now be able to breed and sell bumble bees without suspicion. Whereas without the female anyone who suddenly tries to sell a bumble bee (other than DM et al) might as well tatoo "REPTILE THIEF" into their forhead

good point, maybe the thief will actually buy one this time. it would be the only logical thing to do.
first he would have to rip of a few corner shops to come up with the cash though.

 

[AM Pythons]

good point, maybe the thief will actually buy one this time. it would be the only logical thing to do.
first he would have to rip of a few corner shops to come up with the cash though.

i was just thinking..'who's collection is the thief going to steal & sell to buy the female he needs'....

 

[impulse reptiles]

lets see some pics of the parents....oh wait :lol:

Great looking Bhp...lets hope it can produce something similar in the future.

 

[snakelvr]

One thing that crossed my mind is what happens if the person who stole Sam's bumble bee buys this one? They'll now be able to breed and sell bumble bees without suspicion.

My exact thought when I first read this thread. Hhhmmmm.

 

[Wild~Touch]

Ahhh ... Sherlock Holmes where are you ??

 

[siouxie]

If there is more than one bumble bee in the world then pretty surely its a genetic trait. How its inherited is anyones guess.

all this talk of hybrids, and people should be honest and state clearly what they are selling, naming this type of colour a 'bumblebee' certainly implies a genetic value, when clearly it it should be advertised as an unproven characteristic, and just an exceptionally coloured bhp. it is common practice to offer guarantees with unproven morphs overseas, but if you just want to take the punt or just want a pretty snake, pay 12K, i'm sure someone will.

One thing that crossed my mind is what happens if the person who stole Sam's bumble bee buys this one? They'll now be able to breed and sell bumble bees without suspicion. Whereas without the female anyone who suddenly tries to sell a bumble bee (other than DM et al) might as well tatoo "REPTILE THIEF" into their forhead

cest la vie