Well that was a disaster :(

[drake84]

This thread is quite disturbing - people buying animals they haven't got a clue about handling... the only casualties will be the snakes. learning on the job is not something you should with any animal.

Quite bizarre...

Jamie.

Jamie, I don't think you have read the entire thread... If you had you would know that I had received this information for the hand sock/sack from an aforementioned thread. Don't make snap judgements on people saying that they "haven't got a clue." I have been ready and waiting for this snake for well over 12 months and have spent most of my time researching on this forum and other informative sites online. Sometimes though with so many conflicting views of big headed people it can be hard to decifer fact from fiction. I decided to go with a technique that seemed least offensive to my snake, it just didn't work out and I have learnt my lesson. Unfortunately when it comes to less common pets such as snakes, a bit of "learning on the job" is necessary. I am not completely new to snakes, but as a first time owner it is different handling a new hatchling than someone's snake who is already well established and used to regular handling.

Howdy drake84.a bite is a bite, and better to get bitten while ur little guy is still little. how much can he eat anyways?

He's currently on Fuzzy Rats. Yeah, not worried about pain... just don't want to flinch and throw him across the room that's all... It's hard to know exactly how you will react before it happens... Fourtunately I have a good track record of not reacting too bad to various bites I have received from animals such as rats & birds. It's just snake bites I imagine due to the nature of a strike would give a bit of a shock.

 

[Braidotti]

Jamie, I don't think you have read the entire thread... If you had you would know that I had received this information for the hand sock/sack from an aforementioned thread. Don't make snap judgements on people saying that they "haven't got a clue." I have been ready and waiting for this snake for well over 12 months and have spent most of my time researching on this forum and other informative sites online. Sometimes though with so many conflicting views of big headed people it can be hard to decifer fact from fiction. I decided to go with a technique that seemed least offensive to my snake, it just didn't work out and I have learnt my lesson. Unfortunately when it comes to less common pets such as snakes, a bit of "learning on the job" is necessary. I am not completely new to snakes, but as a first time owner it is different handling a new hatchling than someone's snake who is already well established and used to regular handling.



He's currently on Fuzzy Rats. Yeah, not worried about pain... just don't want to flinch and throw him across the room that's all... It's hard to know exactly how you will react before it happens... Fourtunately I have a good track record of not reacting too bad to various bites I have received from animals such as rats & birds. It's just snake bites I imagine due to the nature of a strike would give a bit of a shock.

The only time a snake will bite and hold on, will be if it`s a food related bite.
Most of the time they bite out of fear and alot of the time they have already coiled back into the S shape before you even have time to flinch.

 

[lisa5]

Hey drake, don't worry. We have just purchased 2 woma hatchlings- they are great. I wash my hands well with a strong smeling soap before handling, then use the hook to ease out of the enclosure, then calmly place my other hand under the back portion of the snake to support and ten gently remove the hook. Acting sure with confidence tends to help, I think sometimes they may sense if you are nervous- so a couple of beers may help! haha- but I'm sure everything will be okay- it really doesn't hurt getting bitten (have been by my adult spotted) and she tends to do so if I muck about rather than just reach in and get her. Good luck and enjoy- don't worry!

 

[chilli-mudcrab]

This thread is quite disturbing - people buying animals they haven't got a clue about handling... the only casualties will be the snakes. learning on the job is not something you should with any animal.

Quite bizarre...

Jamie.

rubbish! we dont all have reptile training centre around the corner

 

[pythons73]

Its not about having any training centres,its more about reading-researching the basics before acquiring a reptile.Reptiles DONT like being handled,but some will tolerate being handled.The glove is ALOT more scarier then your bare hand,imagine being a hatchie and this big hand with a glove coming towards you,i would freak-stress out too.Whats a hatchie python going to do,they dont have arms-legs so the only thing they can do is "bite".Considering this is ur first snake,i think you have 2 choices,1st get used to being biting,2nd buy a goldfish..

 

[veenarm]

drake84, Jamie was trolling, its a disease the interweb has caused...

I'm applying for my licence for a Diamond Python at the moment, they want to come inspect my dragons first so that's on monday!

Can't wait to get him, already handled and very placid .. so laid back in fact tried to go toilet on me...

 

[Khagan]

drake84, Jamie was trolling, its a disease the interweb has caused...

That wasn't trolling, not at all.

 

[saximus]

That wasn't trolling, not at all.

+1

 

[drake84]

drake84, Jamie was trolling, its a disease the interweb has caused...

I'm applying for my licence for a Diamond Python at the moment, they want to come inspect my dragons first so that's on monday!

Can't wait to get him, already handled and very placid .. so laid back in fact tried to go toilet on me...

Wow! They do inspections in ACT do they? That's good! Here in QLD they just give licenses away for $80 or whatever it was. I am pretty confident now to ditch the glove so I will try again on Saturday if I have time, if not on Sunday. I will definitely let everyone know how it does Normally I wouldn't let Jamie and the likes get to me, I was somewhat expecting it; but I was super tired this morning and a little cranky after a cr@p commute to work

 

[maxPOWERS]

most people on this forum that say they just gotta new snake have done there research but as drake says there are so many bigheaded people out there that dont remember that they were noobs once. its a cycle. im sure in a couple of years i will be just as bigga dick as the people on this forum who say that me and drake are doing the wrong thing and why the F#$% do they have snakes there noobs lol. or maybe i will break this cycle and in a manner that is not rude or arrogant i would inform them on what there doing wrong so that they can learn and do it better next time............

pythoninfinite and pythons73 just to name some of the culprits of this

saximus was at first but he changed his view a little and started to help which was great.
thank you

 

[Sock Puppet]

The only sock you should ever have on your hand is a sock puppet
(not when handling snakes though)

Cheers
Sock Puppet

 

[maxPOWERS]

and drake why didnt u just use a sanitized kitchen glove.......

 

[Darkhorse]

This thread is quite disturbing - people buying animals they haven't got a clue about handling... the only casualties will be the snakes. learning on the job is not something you should with any animal.

Quite bizarre...

Jamie.

Well that's not exactly constructive Jamie.... how are people meant to learn if they have no access to another person who is willing to show them? At least Drake is seeking out advice - he should not be discouraged from doing that by negative people like you.

 

[hnn17]

ask and learn from the seller.

there is an alternative to handling snakes if youre afraid - don't handle at all and wait until the snake is older and more confident and less likely to bite out of fear. it worked for all the snakes i have so far.

when you buy a woma hatchling, ask for a lazy one that doesnt strike the prey but just slowly open its mouth and then eat, it will be less likely to go food obsessed later, plus if you see it doing that with your hand there is more time to take your hand away.

 

[Khagan]

how are people meant to learn if they have no access to another person who is willing to show them?

The breeder. It's worth taking the time to find a breeder who is happy to go through all your questions with you before handing over the snake and help with any follow up. I know on a big scale it could be a lot of work for them so maybe easier to find a smaller one for this, but i feel it is irresponsible for a breeder to hand over a snake without making sure the buyer knows the basics.

When i purchased my 1st snake the breeder was awesome, asked me if i had any questions and discussed them all with me making sure i had things set up right etc, fed it infront of me to show it wasn't a problem feeder, helped me fill out the log book and gave me a small care sheet. Was a great start, even got my 1st bite while there lol.

 

[Fantazmic]

hi ya

i agree with everyone else just a few things id like to add...it i most likely you will be tagged....it feels like a cat scratch....and is so fast you wont get a chance to flinch unless you anticipate it and pull away.....my first baby jungle had my boys totally bailed up one night when I was at work....all she did was move and they anticipated her striking and pulled away and it ended up with everyone very stressed and Elvira still in her click clack. I came home moved decisively and just reached in and got her out. So move with confidence.

If you really want to avoid being bitten handle three days after a feed...if they have been fed the correct size food item you will have a calm contented snake.

if you are unlucky you might experience a food bite....never had it happen to me and I have four jungles two of which I have owned for 12 months.....

so just try to put your nerves to one side and enjoy your snake !!

 

[pythons73]

most people on this forum that say they just gotta new snake have done there research but as drake says there are so many bigheaded people out there that dont remember that they were noobs once. its a cycle. im sure in a couple of years i will be just as bigga dick as the people on this forum who say that me and drake are doing the wrong thing and why the F#$% do they have snakes there noobs lol. or maybe i will break this cycle and in a manner that is not rude or arrogant i would inform them on what there doing wrong so that they can learn and do it better next time............

pythoninfinite and pythons73 just to name some of the culprits of this

Maybe do some research,im not bigheaded and i dont winch about a little bite.Did you ever think the snake wouldve been scared to death seeing that big glove coming towards them.I wouldve biten you too.It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure they can only bite,considering they dont have arms-legs.Everyone is welcome to there opionion,well i just gave mine..

 

[Darlyn]

Drake mate, I know how you feel. Your worried that you will hurt him and maybe he will hurt you.
You are the grown up you need to take charge. Doubt very much you will harm him.
Be gentle and confident and all will be well.
Try not to put your hand in front of his face, as this can be a bit scary for them.
I just scoop mine up from the middle, not too slowly but not too fast. Before he knows it he is out in another environment
and is inquisitive and happy. Good luck and ignore the pompous people who were born with a snake in their hand.

Also take heart from the fact that your snake will forgive you for dropping him, well he will forget pretty quickly anyway.

 

[Red-Ink]

Lets just put this into perspective guys..... Drake mate this is not a go at you or anyone else for that matter but it's really quite simple...

It's like this.... Don't want to get bitten by a shark? Don't swim in the ocean..
Don't want to get bitten by a croc stay out of their rivers...
Don't want to get bitten by a snake.. well...............

Part and parcel of snake keeping.... not the nicest thing to happen and nobody actually likes it.... nobody looks for it to happen.... but as soon as it does it's an experience that you will find was probably a bigger deal in your mind...

 

[missnikki]

He has done his research which is how he heard of using the glove, he tried it and it didn't work out, now he knows. There are so many differing opinions when it comes to snakes. There's always someone who has to throw in their 2 cents of unconstructive feedback e.g. telling him to "buy a goldfish"