Cat Thread - This is how you do it.

[Colin]

yes like this blokes cat that I described above it seems in their predatory nature to want to hunt and kill things usually out of instinct.. I think its responsible to have a decent sized cat run for them to prevent this and when your home probably have the cat inside the house. there would be minimal impact on wildlife if cats were housed a little differently.. but when I was growing up no one ever heard of a "cat run" etc and I think education is the key to changing a communities outlook on these issues. do any wildlife groups ever go to cat societies or cat groups meetings? (I assume they have clubs or socities like we have herp societies) to educate the cat owners of these issues and give them a solution may change things a little to start and after a while maybe change things a lot.. if wildlife groups dont do presentations to cat societies to alert them of these issues maybe they should.

 

[Spider178]

Hey Spider, as mentioned before and obviously will need to continue to do so, if a cat or dog gets trapped and taken to the pound then it usually has at least 3 days for it to be collected with a fee. About the snake thing, responsible ownership, most of the time an escaped pet snake will result in the shovel. What woul you prefer the pound and a second chance or the shovel for either species?

I totally agree with what you have done re the cage, we have a cat who is an inside cat but has escaped a couple of times through it's devious ways. We would do anything to get him back as we would with any of our animals that may have gone missing.
I was making reference more to the few that have the attitude that the only good cat is a dead one, not unlike those that have the same attitude with snakes.

 

[cement]

"if wildlife groups dont do presentations to cat societies to alert them of these issues maybe they should."

In theory that's a good idea.

 

[Jeffa]

yes like this blokes cat that I described above it seems in their predatory nature to want to hunt and kill things usually out of instinct.. I think its responsible to have a decent sized cat run for them to prevent this and when your home probably have the cat inside the house. there would be minimal impact on wildlife if cats were housed a little differently.. but when I was growing up no one ever heard of a "cat run" etc and I think education is the key to changing a communities outlook on these issues. do any wildlife groups ever go to cat societies or cat groups meetings? (I assume they have clubs or socities like we have herp societies) to educate the cat owners of these issues and give them a solution may change things a little to start and after a while maybe change things a lot.. if wildlife groups dont do presentations to cat societies to alert them of these issues maybe they should.

Great idea Colin, but sometimes the owner of a cat or dog find it very offensive that their little Puss or princess could be as precious as they are have a hard time trying to get over the fact that their pet is killing wildlife.
I agree that there should be a program where native wildlife needs all the help it can get and little actions can and especially wording can at the end of the day help our native wildlife. I use to have Little breeding pair of sunbirds that would welcome my afternoon visit home from work. Why should I not be able to have that privledge again?

I totally agree with what you have done re the cage, we have a cat who is an inside cat but has escaped a couple of times through it's devious ways. We would do anything to get him back as we would with any of our animals that may have gone missing.
I was making reference more to the few that have the attitude that the only good cat is a dead one, not unlike those that have the same attitude with snakes.

My thoughts are with you, I hope you get you pet back.
I do not condone or appreciate that a pet that escapes ones premesis is open to "Laws at their own expense" call the pound and I hope you get your pet back. Things happen and we as nature lovers appreciate the steps people take to keep all animals safe.

 

[Spider178]

My thoughts are with you, I hope you get you pet back.
I do not condone or appreciate that a pet that escapes ones premesis is open to "Laws at their own expense" call the pound and I hope you get your pet back. Things happen and we as nature lovers appreciate the steps people take to keep all animals safe.

Oops I stuffed that one, (been a long day) the cat has come back after an hour or so each time but yes I would be on to the pound, etc. He is microchipped and has a tag with phone number, etc on it so I would hope that if he ever went missing someone would be nice enough to do the right thing.

 

[Jeffa]

Oops I stuffed that one, (been a long day) the cat has come back after an hour or so each time but yes I would be on to the pound, etc. He is microchipped and has a tag with phone number, etc on it so I would hope that if he ever went missing someone would be nice enough to do the right thing.

Just keep it on the property so it does not have to go to the pounds, simple! post some pics of reptiles or animals that move into the area due to lack of pet preditation. Cant wait

 

[ramzee86]

First off, i just want to say, i think Killing any animal with no real intention is stupid and disgusting.
I have no idea why some people still kill every cane toad, cat, fox, rabbit they see when clearly they have a well enough established population that no matter how many we kill at this stage they will still exist here, whether we like it or not...
Its our fault they're here in the first place so we have to deal with the consequences... Its got to a stage thats beyod return, so to me killing a cane toad is just as bad as killing a Green tee frog, its not justified, in the long run it changing near-to nothing, and your killing an innocent animal.

So if i found out that someone killed our beloved family cat that fled in bad weather, due to ignorance, i'd be revolted and disgusted.
Humane Euthanisation to a pest species (who isn't a family pet -.-) is fine, and is a huge difference to running something over or shooting it.

 

[Jeffa]

totally agree ramzee, this thread has nothing to do with killiing an animal that is a pet outright unless it is an escaped feral proven. Responsible pet ownership, anything else start a new thread.

 

[Colin]

"if wildlife groups dont do presentations to cat societies to alert them of these issues maybe they should."

In theory that's a good idea.

yeah some thought would need to go into it and the presenter would need to be a diplomatic person. maybe to show them some wildlife cute small dragons etc and explain the problems.. to give cat owners some info how to make the cat runs and try to encourage them to make them may be something the cat societies would be willing to take on board. once you change the attitude of these groups they would encourage their members and new members to follow suit. its a matter of getting the ball rolling and having them take it up and carry on with it.

most people love our native wildlife so working together with cat owners for a common goal would be preferable to just hating cats and cat owners. it doesnt make us any better than the people who say " a dead snake is a good snake" in some ways.

it may not change many attitudes but no one knows till its tried I guess. If your not part of the solution then your part of the problem.

 

[Wild~Touch]

so to me killing a cane toad is just as bad as killing a Green tee frog

errr....ummmm....not so.....obviously you don't live in Queensland

 

[snakeluvver]

So you trap what is probably a neighbours pet... then post about it on a public forum?
Correct me if Im wrong, but thats a visit from the RSPCA waiting to happen.

Anyway, to all the redneck cat killers out there, just imagine that the owner may be a young child. Imagine how upset they'd be if they knew you took their beloved pet, I used to own cats and I know if someone killed my cat I would be mortified, and furious at the person.

 

[Jeffa]

Well said colin, we can all proactivly get things moving in the right direction if common sense and tact are involved, we all want to be able to take pics of undamaged animals and pics involving species in our own backyard.
Well done to everyone and my point is that examples can be made and learned to the wellfare of our native and pets to co exist to both our benefits.
It all starts with you.

Read the posts from the begining or is that to hard snakelover.

 

[Ramsayi]

So you trap what is probably a neighbours pet... then post about it on a public forum?
Correct me if Im wrong, but thats a visit from the RSPCA waiting to happen.

Anyway, to all the redneck cat killers out there, just imagine that the owner may be a young child. Imagine how upset they'd be if they knew you took their beloved pet, I used to own cats and I know if someone killed my cat I would be mortified, and furious at the person.

You are corrected....It is quite legal to trap a cat on your property,pet or not.Councils even supply you with a trap to do so.

 

[Jeffa]

You are corrected....It is quite legal to trap a cat on your property,pet or not.Councils even supply you with a trap to do so.

Ramsayi is this across the NSW board or does it go futher? I know it is in my area (central Qld) but not to sure if it is a state wide, Aussie wide legislation?

 

[Ramsayi]

Not sure about all councils in NSW but for sure about two whos districts I have lived in. I have had traps supplied by the local council.Rangers drop them off to you and come collect them once the traps get an occupant.

 

[snakeluvver]

You are corrected....It is quite legal to trap a cat on your property,pet or not.Councils even supply you with a trap to do so.

Interesting.

 

[Morgwynn]

do any wildlife groups ever go to cat societies or cat groups meetings? (I assume they have clubs or socities like we have herp societies) to educate the cat owners of these issues and give them a solution may change things a little to start and after a while maybe change things a lot.. if wildlife groups dont do presentations to cat societies to alert them of these issues maybe they should.

Actually Colin, I think the real problem with this idea is that most of the sort of people who care enough about cats to go to meetings/shows etc are the sort of people who are too passionate about their pampered pets to let them roam unsupervised. The average person doesn't care enough about cats to go to those sorts of meetings, and those are the same people who think it's only natural for cats to be outside and hunting.

If my neighbour's cat ever gets into my yard and bothers my birds and possums, I'd probably be looking at trapping it and taking it to the pound/rspca too. As much as I wouldn't want to deprive my neighbour's of their pet, we have told them to keep him from roaming and they don't listen.

 

[Colin]

Actually Colin, I think the real problem with this idea is that most of the sort of people who care enough about cats to go to meetings/shows etc are the sort of people who are too passionate about their pampered pets to let them roam unsupervised. The average person doesn't care enough about cats to go to those sorts of meetings, and those are the same people who think it's only natural for cats to be outside and hunting.

yes your probably right there.. still it would be good if these people promoted responsible keeping to their members amd encouraged cat runs.. they may even do this?

 

[hypochondroac]

I feel sorry for the animals in question that get destroyed because of ignorant neglectful owners but educating somebody who has had an outside cat all their life is as easy as getting blood from a stone.

Most of the kind of people that allow their cats to roam get defensive, rude or they shrug it off - Even if you go about it in a calm kind way. Alot of them don't give a crap, they can't see what their cats do so it never really happens and unless their cat gets seriously injured then there is no point in putting time, money and effort into building a cat run.. After all the reason alot of people get a cat in the first place is because they're so 'independent'.

Anybody who doesn't really care where their animals are day or night needs a wake up call. It's pure chance your cat doesn't get hit by a car, trapped or in some way injured through out it's life so i have to agree that if a cat is in your yard you have every right to trap it.

 

[mungus]

To all, This animal was trapped on my property that backs onto state forest, flame me all you want but if I prevent the loss of only one animal that is a win.
If anyone has a problem doing what I have done then take a look in the mirror.

Everyone jumps the gun and just assumes, sheesh.

Property.......state forest.......surely u would let a responsible bow hunter on your place for a spot of hunting ?