pet shops

[xander]

Just been reading the thread re melbourne reptile shop and Im just curious as to why people buy reptiles at a pet shop and not a breeder? I was at a pet shop today that had animals in appalling conditions and were expensive. I mean $100 for a eastern bluey with toes missing?Personally I have yet to see reptiles being housed correctly in a pet shop on the gold coast yet and its really quite sad.(and the birds are another matter all together)If you bought a reptile at a pet shop did you do it out of pity or as a impulse.Maybe states are different but on the gold coast none are vet checked or well cared for.

 

[nook171]

some people might just walk into a petshop and ask questions ect ect then they give the info out about the reptile and how to own one then they get the lic then go to the petshop and buy one from them with the setup they need ect ect

 

[sengir]

This argument is so old and been covered a hundred times. I will state my opinion once more.Whether you buy from abreeder or a petshop, there will always be good ones and bad ones. MOST people will disagree and thats fine but thats my opinion.

Cheers

 

[nook171]

and if people go into the argument about pet shops giving out wrong infromation about the reptile well so does epa i rang them up one time to ask what our pet shop could sell in the way of reptiles and this lady said all pythons ecept woma's BHP scrubs and elapids all geckos so it goes to show you even epa giv out wrong information

 

[sengir]

The hard part for pet shops is that they are in the public eye, where people can have a breeder next door and not know it.

Cheers

 

[xander]

Singar, you dont need or have to reply if you dont want to.No one is twisting your arm.

 

[hornet]

and if people go into the argument about pet shops giving out wrong infromation about the reptile well so does epa i rang them up one time to ask what our pet shop could sell in the way of reptiles and this lady said all pythons ecept woma's BHP scrubs and elapids all geckos so it goes to show you even epa giv out wrong information

i really hate it when people use that as an excuse, "oh well they do it, y cant we?"

 

[Sdaji]

Pet shops are great... for those who are too lazy to track down a breeder and wish to purchase an animal which has been subjected to undue stress (an extra move and being held in a non-specific enclosure for some period of time, with idiots tapping on the glass, etc). The parasites and other quarantine risks which are part and parcel of bringing animals from a range of sources into one small area are worth paying the extra money for and at least you know you'll never have to waste your time talking to the breeder (if the animal actually had a breeder and wasn't poached), because you'll never be able to track him or her down.

 

[nook171]

at the pet shop i work at we sell 6month old childrens for $260 and we have sold 14 this year we also sell adult childrens for $600 and we have sold 3 this year we sell adult pink tougnes for $140 and 2 have gone and heaps more but it all comes down to what the person is willing to pay and our supplier is urs so all the snakes ad lizards are in excelent health all feeding well

 

[hornet]

how do you know they are in excellent health, do you quaranteen them for 3-12 months to be sure they dont have any disease?

 

[nook171]

i really hate it when people use that as an excuse, "oh well they do it, y cant we?"

it wasnt an excuse i was just giving you an example with pet shops they shouldnt be giving out the wrong information about the reps because they done courses on them telling them all the info about them so they have the information to give out to people when needed

 

[spencer]

personally i wouldn't buy from a petshop simply because they need to make money to cover there overhead so your going to pay extra at a pet shop than a breeder, I've only seen one petshop in brisbane which had adequate houseing for maccies but even then I wouldn't buy off this particular guy in a million years due to lack of care for them. by the way nook thats surprising that the epa were that far out, usually I find them pretty helpfull but i suppose it depends on who you talk too.

 

[sengir]

how do you know they are in excellent health, do you quaranteen them for 3-12 months to be sure they dont have any disease?

How do you know that the snake you are getting from the breeder is in good health?

 

[hornet]

depends who you buy from, any herper who is concerned about disease will quaranteen new arrivals

 

[spencer]

well it depends on the breeder I suppose, I know a very good one in brisbane who takes care in looking after his pythons if you want his number let me know

 

[alex_c]

Just been reading the thread re melbourne reptile shop and Im just curious as to why people buy reptiles at a pet shop and not a breeder? I was at a pet shop today that had animals in appalling conditions and were expensive. I mean $100 for a eastern bluey with toes missing?Personally I have yet to see reptiles being housed correctly in a pet shop on the gold coast yet and its really quite sad.(and the birds are another matter all together)If you bought a reptile at a pet shop did you do it out of pity or as a impulse.Maybe states are different but on the gold coast none are vet checked or well cared for.

there is good pet shops such as pails for scales.

 

[hornet]

got him email address? also you need to allow pms

 

[ScottBec]

Anther fish to add to the kettel is that SOME pet shops do give out incorrect advice, and if you don't know the difference, it does matter... I would like to see ALL pet shop staff trained/given the knowledge to handle the reptiles they sell, and be able to give the needed advice to the people that are buying these herps....

I would also like to add that in my opion there are good pet shops, and the prices aren't so bad when you take into account the freight, etc that may be payable when you buy from a breeder, and it's an even bigger challenge if you're importing/exporting (not to mention some people, myself included, buy reptiles on photo/s and haven't seen the animal, conditions etc.)

To answer your origional question, Xander, I'm about to purchase a pair of Stimys from a local pet shop, and it's because it is a benefit to me.. To explain:
I felt the price was only about $50-$100 more than what had been advertised by breeders (Qld or interstate freight is easaly between 50-100) I was also given exceptional advice/help, and I can see, touch and watch the pair before purchasing... not to mention, one of them was coming into shed, so the pick up date is dependant on the male shedding...

So I think, if you know of a pet shop that isn't caring for their herps in a suitable manner, why not do something about it - - write a letter to the petshop manager, and while you're at it why not 'CC' the letter to the authorities (?? - EPA in Qld)...

In my opion, if you wnat things to change, you have to do you bit (even if it's only a little bit)
Bec

 

[bubba]

i got both my snakes from upmarket pets in melbourne, i think highly of this petshop, the staff are great ( although a little busy) the guys i talk to are snake owners so know what they are talking about and both snakes i got were greatly priced (on special actually..lol )

 

[sengir]

Was never questioning the herper was saying how do you know they come healthy from the breeder. Other thing is some pet shops breed there own snakes, so its just like buying from a breeder, just they are put on display in a shop