KaotikJezta
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Don't say that, I love brownies.
The fence was almost new, and it would not have happened with kids, he is a useless guard dog,.
Well today the inevitable happened and the fence gave way and he killed one of their dogs.
Confused..?! - anyway, in my opinion, its a owners responsibility to keep their dog enclosed and not blame the fence. Ive seen it far too many times where a dog escapes, attacks, gets killed or stolen and they blame a person for leaving the gate open but don't take responsibility. Its absolute bull.. You have a dog, lock your gates and make a high enough fence it can't tackle/jump over, ESPECIALLY if its a hunter dog. If I had a dog that killed another dog, Id put it down straight away.. because in a similar scenario, the dog will do it again or worse.
Your dog is gorgeous Good luck getting him backThank you mad_at_arms and Jamie.
Thought I would ad some pictures, these are from last year. Can't find where I stored the later shots so I am hoping I haven't deleted them. The first one is when I first got him and the others are at about 3 months, he still has the missing hair from his first brush with death and he had to have an oxygen mask glued on as he kept getting it off. They are a bit blurry as he wouldn't keep still. His eyes are not blue like that, that was a flash thing I think.
(your invitation, but no expert. Id take out of it personal liability till I put my pet down, which you did first, but emotion over-ruled, and thats what I criticised. Ive known people who had cats roam/killed by dog, and seen them get the dog destroyed, which I was angry about. Or a dog who had roamed in my garden, ripped open my rabbit hutch and spread my rabbits body parts everywhere. That incident, I blamed myself for not having a fence, not the dog. And I had to put my cattle dog down for escaping and nipping at kids playing in their yard. So Im not reacting in the heat of the moment, or being heartless. I am however thinking logically with emotion separate (as its not my dog), and I try to consider everyones emotion but not let it alter my opinion. I mentioned Once a dog kills, high chance it will kill again, because it killed a dog/tasted live blood. Sympathy goes to the victim. To put a dog down who killed another dog would be hard. BUT.. In my opinion, I would have followed through, as my remorse for victim and chances of relying on a fence in suburbia with a hunter breed who killed , has high chances of killing again.Maybe you should read the whole thread before before commenting. (I read all 9 pages). Inevitable was probably the wrong word to use (thats why Im confused) but at the time of writing the first post I was in a state. He did not jump the fence, a paling broke, right down the bottom allowing their dog entry. My dog never left the property. My dog can't jump my fence, my fence is high enough and my gates are locked. It did not tackle the fence. (never said you tackled the fence?!) Please, in your expert opinion tell me why my neighbours or I would have suspected that a relatively new wooden fence with no holes or signs of damage would have a paling snap (no expert sorry, just my opinion), as palings I assume are supposed to be hard wood. At the end of the day, noone but you is blaming anyone or anything,(I said people blame the fence/gate etc.) although I reacted like you initially in the heat of the moment, we are all just shocked and saddened that it happened. My neighbours don't want my dog put down, trainers that I have spoken to don't believe he should be put down,(trainers make the decision justified, ok.) no one on this thread believes he should be put down(I read all 9 pages I think people are skeptical) so please share your expert area of expertise with us as to how you are so confident it will happen again.
Thanks Elizabeth, I'll keep that in mind to ignore those peoplereally good people on this list...and some that just need to be ignored. The person who wrote the ridiculouspost is in the latter category.
Elizabeth
(your invitation, but no expert. Id take out of it personal liability till I put my pet down, which you did first, but emotion over-ruled, and thats what I criticised. Ive known people who had cats roam/killed by dog, and seen them get the dog destroyed, which I was angry about. Or a dog who had roamed in my garden, ripped open my rabbit hutch and spread my rabbits body parts everywhere. That incident, I blamed myself for not having a fence, not the dog. And I had to put my cattle dog down for escaping and nipping at kids playing in their yard. So Im not reacting in the heat of the moment, or being heartless. I am however thinking logically with emotion separate (as its not my dog), and I try to consider everyones emotion but not let it alter my opinion. I mentioned Once a dog kills, high chance it will kill again, because it killed a dog/tasted live blood. Sympathy goes to the victim. To put a dog down who killed another dog would be hard. BUT.. In my opinion, I would have followed through, as my remorse for victim and chances of relying on a fence in suburbia with a hunter breed who killed , has high chances of killing again.
I know it was a 'small mutt dog', but it was a dog same as yours(to other comments) so I simply see it logically, considering breed of dog too. (which statistics show more care is needed and debated they should be illegal- as in singapore). Its really hard to separate emotions and you've had advice as you said, so Im happy you got what you wanted and your dog returns. Its prob. lucky you have great neighbours and everything. Although I don't agree, doesn't make me bad for opposing opinion, or someone who needs to agree, otherwise why post it and reveal gradual information. :-S ).
are you people actual serious??
This friendly pet dog that lives with children.. has broken down a fence and killed a "ratdog" for barking...
hello?? does no one else here see the signing of whats to come?
Yes l know how attached you become to your family pet, been there done that. But l tell you, l would have serious concerns about the children that play in the yard with this animal,
You guys can think me heartless, a **$#, whatever but l tell you, coming from someone whos been there done that.. Open your eyes and see the signs before a child is killed.
We had a dog, i was 15 at the time. Most beautiful dog ever. Sheppard X Doberman. My brothe bought him home as a tiny pup and it was the best thing. We'd lost a dog to old age a couple of years yearlier. Anyway, cut a very long story short, our dog would have been 5 at the time. My brother had left home a couple of years yearlier and couldn't take the dog so l kept him. I fed him, bathed him, walked him, slept with him. He was my dog..
There was a yap yap up the street, our dog got out and killed it. We fort hammer and tong to keep our dog and did. Not 3 months later, l was in hospital after meaning attacked in our yard by our dog. There was no lead up, there was no nothing. I had not yelled at him, there was my play fighting involved. There was however a new yap yap in the street 2 doors down that had been barking constantly for a couple of hours.
I walked into our yard, called the dog and he knocked me over from behind and started biting me.. l can't tell you the pain.. the fear. i thought l was going to die.
I made the decision to put my dog down because if he would attack me.. what about the younger kids.. what about the neighbors kids..
I'm sorry for your loss, l truely am but look at the bigger picture.. it could be one of your innocent children next.. or someone elses..
I know l am going to hate mail for this, and so be it, this is purely my opinion and my experience.
Sorry, misread about the kids.
Yes, we contacted obedience training in the area and they put us in touch with a "dog whisperer" - trainer. We went thru extensive training.
Yes, we did seek advice and have testing done by a vet - something l would never have thought of (nor my mum at the time) but the trainer suggested it so we followed thru.
We were told - at the time, the dog showed no agressive trates, he was well trained, we walk (lead on after the attck of the other dog), with no problems.. cats roaming, birds, other dogs.
We walked day and night, at night he was a little different, More alert and if someone came out from around a corner or what have you, yes he would go into attack mode, but that's "normal" behaviour for any day.
I just thank god it was me and not one of the young kids in the street what would come play in our yard, with swing sets, slides, sandpits.. you know all the great playground stuff.
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